ELSE 1.0-0 RC13 with Live Electronics Tutorial Released
Ok, the cat is out of the bag --> https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/1.0-rc13 I'm officialy announcing the update and uploaded binaries to deken for mac (intel/arm), Win and Linux. It all looks ok but tell me if you see something funny please. There's also a raspberry pi binary but not working 100%yet and we'll still look into that. Hopefully someone could help me/us with it. I might make another upload just for the pi later on if/when we figure it out. Find release notes and changelog below.
RELEASE NOTES:
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It's been a little bit over 7 months since the last update and I almost broke the record for taking too long to release an update (which had happened in my previous update). So yeah, there's just too much to talk about! I guess the delays in releasing updates is because it's been a little tricky and hard to sync the release cycles of ELSE with PlugData, which includes ELSE in its download.
Plugdata 0.9.2 should come out soon with ELSE RC13 and it's supposedly the last update before 1.0.0, so I've heard. And the plans was to get to that still in 2025! This means ELSE could be at its last "Release Candidate" phase as I'm aiming to sync the final release with PlugData. Until then, I'll still make breaking changes and I can't wait until I can't do that anymore as I really feel bad. On the other hand, it's kind of inevitable when I'm always adding new stuff and redesigning and reconfiguring objects to include more functionalities. And I always got a lot of new stuff! So I'm thinking that I will eventually try some mechanism like Pd's compatibility flag or something. I'll try to come up with something like that in the next update.
This update has 22 new objects for a total of 573 and 26 new examples in my tutorial for a total of 554 examples. Let's dive into the highlights (see full changelog below after the release notes).
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Multichannel Support: Last release had 92 MC aware objects, now it's 139! Over a 50% increase that include old and new objects (all the new ones have been coming with MC support). Virtually all oscillators and envelope generators now have MC support, plus some other random ones. Let me highlight the new [lace~]/[delace~] objects that are 'MC' tools that perform interleave/deinterleave in Multichannel connections. My bare minimum number of objects "to start with" would be at least a bit over half the number of signal objects. That was my target for 1.0! ELSE right now has 319 signal objects, so that'd be at least 160. I will definitely pass this milestone in the next update. I guess a good number of MC objects would be around 75% of the signal objects. I will aim for that as soon as I can. Some objects simply can't be MC at all, so 100% will never be the case, but maybe an ideal 90% eventually? We'll see... I am just proud and happy that ELSE is taking such a big jump on MC awareness in less than a couple years.
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Envelope generators ([adsr~]/[asr~]/[envgen~]/[function~]) now have more curve options. For [adsr~]/[asr~] the default is now a new log curve that you can set the curve parameter (and was 'stolen' from SuperCollider). A new [smooth~] family of objects perform the same kind of curved smoothening for alternating inputs - [envgen~] and [function~] also have that but also '1-pole' filtering, 'sine' and 'hann' curves. You can now trigger [adsr~] and [asr~] with impulses.
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The [play.file~] object now supports even more file formats besides MP3 and stuff. Hey, you can even stream the supported formats from weblinks! The [sfload] object (which loads files into arrays) also gained support for more formats and can download from weblinks as well! It also has a new threaded mode, so loading big files won't choke Pd. It now also outputs the file information, which is a way to tell you when loading finished in threaded mode. The [sample~], [player~], [gran.player~] and [pvoc.player~] objects are now also based on [sfload], so they support all these file formats!!! Now [sample~] and [tabplayer~] are integrated in a way that [tabplayer~] is always aware of the sample rate of the file loaded in [sample~] (so it reads in the "correct speed"). A new [sfinfo] object is able to extract looping regions and instrument metadata information from AIFF files (which is something I wanted for ages) - it should do more stuff in the future.
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[knob] has become the ultimate featured bloated creep GUI I always feared and avoided. MAX is envy! but I'm happy with this structure and I want to replicate in other GUIs in the future (yeah, I got plans to offer alternatives to all iemguis). I wanna highlight a new 'param' symbol I added that allows you to remotely set a particular method in an object, so you don't to connect to a "method $1" message and you can even do this wirelessly with a send symbol. [knob] now also acts like a number box, where you can type in the value, which may also be displayed in different ways or the value can be sent elsewhere via another send symbol so you can temper with it using [makefilename] or [else/format]. I've been using this for the MERDA modules and it's really cool.
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We finally have a [popmenu] GUI object! This was in my to do list forever and was crucial to improve the MERDA modules to set waveforms, instruments and whatnot.
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Let's about MERDA, the "Modular Euroracks Dancing Along" subset of abstractions in ELSE. It was first released in the last update and it's been driving lots of the development in ELSE as you can see. I now added a MIDI Learn feature for all knobs that feels great and quite handy! There are many fixes and improvements in general and some new modules. I wanna highlight the new [sfont.m~] module, which loads "sound font" banks and you can just click on a [popmenu] to choose the instrument you want. The default bank has numerous (hundreds) options and also comes with PlugData. The sequencer module [seq8.m~] was rather worthless but it's now a whole new cool thingie. It allows you to set pitches with symbols and even has quarter tone resolution. I added a right outlet to send impulses to trigger envelopes and stuff (there's still more stuff of course, see full changelog below).
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There are newly designed/renamed/recreated [resonbank~]/[resonbank2~] objects that are well suited for Modal Synthesis.
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What actually drives my development is my Live Electronics tutorial, which got a fair upgrade with a new chapter on Modal Synthesis amongst other things, such as new subtractive synthesis examples and a revision of envelope generators with examples on AHDSR and DAHDSR - by the way, there are new gaterelease~/gatedelay~ objects for handling envelopes (and other processes).
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I have to thank some people. Tim added 'zoom' to the [pic] object, as well as an image offset. Tim also implemented a new and better technique for bandlimited oscillators. Ben Wesh gave me a new [scope3d~] GUI object, pretty cool, that plots an oscilloscope in 3 dimensions, which is coded in LUA - and ELSE has been carrying a modified version of [pdlua] because it now depends on it for a couple of GUIs. Tim and Ben made many improvements to [pdlua] (as well as Albert Graef, of course).
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For more new objects, let me also tell you about the simple and cool [float2imp~], that is based on [vline~] and can convert floats to impulses with sample accuracy (don't know why I didn't think of that earlier). A new [tanh~] object has Multichannel support. A bit earlier I made an update to Cyclone that actually "borrows" and includes this one from ELSE instead of its original one (which does not have Multichannel support). PlugData users will load the one from ELSE. This is another tiny step that sort of integrates ELSE and Cyclone, specially for PlugData users.
happy patching.
CHANGELOG:
LIBRARY:
Breaking changes:
- [adsr~]/[asr~]: now a gate off before reaching the sustain point does not start the release right away (this allows you to trigger it with impulses). There's a new mode just for immediate release. There's a new exponential setting for curve factors, the old 'log' mode is renamed to 'lag' as it's the same as used in the [lag~] object. For [adsr~], a bang now is not "retrigger", but an impulse at control rate, there's a new 'retrigger' message for control rate retriggering (and now it only retriggers if the gate is on). For [asr~] a bang now also works like an impulse.
- [sample~]: no more 'load' message, args to 'open' message changed, size is now only in 'ms'.
- [format]: outputs are now always symbols, before you could get float outputs. Also, we just have a simplified symbol output, no more lists or anythings. Hopefully I'll be able to get the 'list' output back, but it involved some bugs that I couldn't fix so I just removed it. You cannot use bangs and lists in secondary inlets no more (this is cylone/max crappy paradigm we don't want here). Bang method was actually removed as well.
- [pack2]: no more support for anythings, also no more support for lists in secondary inlets and output has a list selector (I wanna make this more Pd like and not a silly clone from MAX's [pak], cause fuck MAX).
- [merge]/[unmerge]/[group]: no more '-trim' flag (again, respecting pd's usual list paradigm), in [merge] now there's no more 'hot' argument and a bang now represents an empty list and inlets initialized with empty lists
- [mono]: 1st argument is now 'glide' in ms.
- [sfont~] now uses 'mma' for bank selection (this alters how CC messages set the bank number).
- [player~]/[play.file~]: 'open' message does not play files right away anymore.
- [tabplayer~]/[player~]: play message without args now play at the default settings (whole file at regular speed).
- [envgen~]: removed the 'maxsustain' parameter, use the new [gaterelease~] or [gaterelease] objects instead. Removed the rightmost inlet just to set envelopes, now a list input only sets the envelope and doesn't trigger it. The 'set' message is then removed.
- [envgen~]/[function~]: simplified and got rid of '-exp' flag and message, also deleted 'expl' and 'expi' messages. A new 'curve' and cimpler message sets exponential factors for all or individual segments, and includes more curve formats.
- [knob]: 'esc' key now deactivates the object. The 'ticks' message is renamed to 'steps' and there is a new 'ticks' message that toggles showing ticks on and off. The 'start' message has been renamed to 'arcstart'. The 'outline' message has been renamed to 'square' for better clarity. Design changed a bit to make it like it is in PlugData (they won), so we now fill the whole background color when in 'square mode' and the knob circle has an 85% proportion in this case inside the full 100% square size (so it grows bigger when not in 'square' mode). Now, by default, the GUI is in a new 'loadbang' mode (I don't think this will influence old patches). I'm afraid some old patches might behave really weird since I added a lot of new stuff. I changed the 'load' message behaviour to not update the object (this can arguably be considered a bug fix).
- [wavetable~], [bl.wavetable~] and [wt2d~]: 'set' message now sets frequencies because of the MC support in [wt~] and [wt2d~], while there's a new 'table' method to set the table name.
- [gbman~]/[cusp~] list method is now for MC, old list method is now renamed back to an old 'coeffs' method.
- [f2s~]/[float2sig~] default value is now 10 ms.
- [op] now behaves like [*~] where the smaller list wraps til reaching the size of the longer one.
- [list.seq] does not loop anymore by default.
- [impseq~] list input removed, use the new [float2imp~] object to convert floats to impulses.
- [resonant~] now has 'q' as the default.
- [resonant2~] has been removed.
- [decay2~] has also been removed ([asr~] much better).
- [vcf2~] has been renamed to [resonator2~].
- [resonbank~]/[resonbank2~] have basically been deleted and replaced by new objects with the same name... [resonator~] is based on a new [resonator~] object which is similar to [resonant~] and [resonbank2~] is now based on [resonator2~] (old [vcf2~] instead of [resonant2~] that got deleted). These are well suited objects for Modal Synthesis.
- [oscbank~] now uses a 'partial' list and not a frequency list. The freq input now defaults to '1' and this makes [oscbank2~] completely obsolete.
- [oscbank2~] has been deleted since it became completely obsolete.
- [sfload] load message changed the behaviour a bit.
Enhancements/fixes/other changes:
- [adsr~]: We have now a new mode for immediate release (see breaking changes above, I'm not repeating it). Fixed ADSR signal inputs (it was simply not really working, specially for linear). Fixed status output for MC signals. There's a new curve parameter that allows you to set the curvature.
- [asr~] I actually just made the new [adsr~] code into a new [asr~] code as a simplified version (as it was before)... so it's got the same impromevents/fixes.
- [play.file~]: added support for more file formats and even weblinks for online streaming!
- [sfload]: added an outlet to output information, added threaded mode, added support for more file formats and even weblinks for downloading.
- [sample~], [player~], [gran.player~] and [pvoc.player~] are now also based on [sfload], so they support more file formats!
- [sample~]: improved extension management with [file splitext].
- [sample~] and [tabplayer~] now are automatically integrated in a way that [tabplayer~] is always aware of the sample rate of the file loaded in [sample~], so it automatically adjusts the reading speed if it is different than the one Pd is running with.
- [numbox~]'s number display is not preceded by "~" anymore (that was just kinda stupid to have).
- [format]: fixed issues where empty symbols and symbols with escaped spaces didn't work. Added support '%a' and '%A' type. Added support for an escaped 'space' flag. Improved and added support for length modifiers. Improved syntax check which prevents a crash. Improved documentation.
- [knob]: added new 'param', 'var', 'savestate', 'read only', 'loadbang', "active", "reset" and 'ticks' methods. Added the possibility to type in number values and also modes on how to display these number values, plus new send symbols for 'activity', 'typing', 'tab' and 'enter'. New design more like plugdata. Changed some shortcuts to make it simpler. If you have the yet unreleased Pd 0.56-0 you can also use 'double clicking' in the same way that works in PlugData. Properties were also significantly improved (I'm finally starting to learn how to deal with this tcl/tk thingie). Yup, a lot of shit here...
- [autofade2~]/[autofade2.mc~]: fixed immediate jump up for 0 ramp up.
- [synth~]: fixed polyphony bug.
- [metronome~]: fixed bug with 'set' message.
- [midi2note]: fixed range (octaves 0-8).
- [pulsecount~]: fixed reset count to not output immediately, added bang to reset counter at control rate
- [click]: fixed regression bug where it stopped working.
- [else]: new 'dir' method to output ELSE's binary directory in a new rightmost outlet. The print information also includes the directory.
- [pic]: added zoom capability finally (thanks to tim schoen) and added offset message (also thanks to tim).
- [store]: added 'sort' functionality.
- [scales]: fixed octave number argument. Added functionality to allow octave number as part of the note symbol.
- [mono]: added 'glide' parameter, as in [mono~].
- [pluck~]: fixed list input.
- [rescale]/[rescale~]: added a "reverse log" mode.
- [limit]: added a new second ignore mode.
- [graph~]: added an external source input for plotting the graph and a 'clear' message.
- [canvas.setname]: added a new argument for "abstraction mode" and methods to set name, depth (and mode).
- [midi.learn]: added a new argument for "abstraction mode", fixed 'dirty' message sent to parent.
- [brickwall~]: fixed initialization.
- [list.seq]: added a loop mode and a 2nd outlet to send a bang when the sequence is done.
- [delete]: fixed index for positive numbers.
- [dust~]: added 'list', 'set' and '-mc' flag for managing the already existing Multichannel capabilities.
- Thanks to Tim we have many fixes and a whole new technique for band limited oscillators. Now [bl.saw~], [bl.saw2~], [bl.vsaw~], [bl.square~], [bl.tri~], [bl.imp~] and [bl.imp2~] have been redesigned to implement elliptic blep, which should provide better anti-aliasing.
- [parabolic~] now uses and internal wavetable for more efficiency.
- [resonant~]: added 'bw' resonance mode.
- [lowpass~]/[highpass~]: added 't60' resonance mode.
- [quantizer~]/[quantizer]: added a new mode, which combines floor (for negative) and ceil (for positive) values.
- [crusher~]: now uses the new [quantizer~] mode from above (arguably a breaking change).
- [envgen~]: fixed a bug (actually a misconception) where ramps started one sample earlier. Fixed 0-length lines. Added a possibility to set time in samples instead of ms. Maximum number of lines is now 1024. Added loop mode. Added many curve options (sin/hann/log curve/lag).
- [function~]: Added many curve options (sin/hann/log curve/lag).
- [The out~] family of abstractions now use [bitnormal~] so you won't blow your speakers beyond repair in edge cases.
- [trig.delay~]/[trig.delay2~]: fixed bug where impulse values different than '1' didn't work.
- Added MC support to: [trig.delay~], [trig.delay2~], [gatehold~], [vca.m~], [gain2~], [decay~], [asr~], [envgen~], [function~], [bl.osc~], [bl.saw~], [bl.saw2~], [bl.vsaw~], [bl.square~], [bl.tri~], [bl.imp~], [bl.imp2~], [imp2~], [tri~], [saw~], [saw2~], [vsaw~], [square~], [pulse~], [parabolic~], [gaussian~], [wavetable~], [wt2d~], [randpulse~], [randpulse2~], [stepnoise~], [rampnoise~] [pink~], [gbamn~], [cusp~], [gray~] and [white~].
- Also added MIDI input and soft sync to [imp2~], [tri~], [saw~], [saw2~], [vsaw~], [square~], [pulse~], [gaussian~] and [parabolic~].
- [wavetable~] and [wt2d~] gained args to set xfading.
- Updated pdlua to 0.12.23.
- M.E.R.D.A: Added MIDI-LEARN for all modules (this is only for the knobs). Replaced some number boxes that were attached to knobs by an internal number display mechanism (new feature from knob). Improved interface of [gendyn.m~]. Preset/symbol name fixes to [flanger.m~]. Now we have automatic MIDI mode detection for [plaits.m~] and [pluck.m~] when no signals are connected (still trying to get plaits right, huh? Yup! And bow MIDI input with monophony and trigger mode has been fixed in [plaits.m~]). Added MC support to [vca.m~]. Increased range of [drive.m~] down to 0.1. Changed some objects to include the new [popmenu] GUI. [vco.m~] now uses the new MC functionalities of oscillators and doesn't need to load abstractions into [clone], I hope it makes this more efficient and clean. The [seq8.m~] module was worthless and got a decent upgrade, it's practically a new module. Added new modules (see below). Note that MERDA is still at alpha development phase, much experimental. Expect changes as it evolves.
- 22 new objects: [float2imp~], [lace], [delace], [lace~], [delace~], [gatehold], [gatedelay],[gatedelay~], [gaterelease~], [gaterelease], [popmenu], [scope3d~], [tanh~], [resonator~], [sfinfo], [smooth], [smooth2], [smooth~], [smooth2~], [dbgain~], [level~] plus [crusher.m~], [sfont.m~] and [level.m~] MERDA Modules.
Objects count: total of 573 (319 signal objects [139 of which are MC aware] and 254 control objects)!
- 323 coded objects (210 signal objects / 113 control objects)
- 227 abstractions objects (87 signal objects / 140 control objects)
- 23 MERDA modular abstractions (22 audio / 1 control)
TUTORIAL:
- New examples and revisions to add the new objects, features and breaking changes in ELSE.
- Added the MERDA modules into the examples for reference.
- Revised section on envelopes.
- New subtractive synthesis examples.
- New chapter on Modal Synthesis.
- Total number of examples is now 554! (26 new ones)
On-air light, trouble receiving int via OSC
I'd like to make a suggestion: Pick one set of objects to handle OSC, and just use those. It's in the nature of a tech forum for different people to have different opinions and offer multiple suggestions, but mixing and matching many different approaches can also lead to confusion.
So, for example, your screenshot -- at the top left, you have [packOSCstream] (why this and not [packOSC]? ** ) and then below, [oscformat]. That's a source of confusion. These two objects have quite different ways of handling OSC addresses (or what I've been calling "command paths") -- two idioms. Nah, this is a good way to introduce mistakes. So, pick one that you're more comfortable with.
** Ah, I see, [packOSC} help says "[packOSCstream] is a way to send OSC over TCP or serial connections" -- but you're using UDP, so, not relevant. Again, simplify: [packOSC] or [oscformat], pick one and stick with it.
Also -- you've got elements of this patch where it's already been explained why they are incorrect. If you connect a "send..." message box directly to a [netsend -u -b], it will not send an OSC-formatted message. Since you are sending to devices that expect OSC-formatted messages, for OSC it is always incorrect to pass a "send..." message directly to [netsend]. Never do this. But, in the top left part of your patch, I count 3 "send" message boxes that are patched directly to [netsend]. Delete those patch cables.
(Similarly, at the bottom of your patch, the line of objects coming directly down from [list trim] --> [route ch] --> [route 1 2 3 4] -- this is a part of my example patch that I had labeled with a comment saying "this will not work." Copying and pasting the non-working part is again going to be a source of confusion.)
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An OSC message has two parts.
- An address (for command) with slashes, e.g. /cs/chan/at/0.
- A list of arguments.
- The argument list always has datatype tags, even if you don't specify them.
- If you didn't write type tags, it will guess. In Pd, all numbers are floating-point, so outgoing OSC will format numbers as floating-point by default.
- The X32 documentation says that it expects an integer 1 or 0. So, in [oscformat], you can force a number in a specific position to be integer-formatted by giving "i" as the type tag.
So...
Which.. for the message [set /cs/chan/select/47(, might make sense, because there's the 47?
No, it's not the 47. The 47 is part of the command path. How do you know it's part of the command path? Because it's connected with slashes in the device docs. The command path is totally excluded from the type tags -- it's always a string.
It gets a bit confusing with [oscformat] because the vanilla OSC objects write both the OSC address and the arguments as lists (no slashes).
- [packOSC] way: [send /cs/chan/select/47(
- [oscformat] way: [set cs chan select 47, bang(
OK, let's look at those.
packOSC: 47 99 115 47 99 104 97 110 47 115 101 108 101 99 116 47 52 55 0 0 44 0 0 0
oscformat: 47 99 115 47 99 104 97 110 47 115 101 108 101 99 116 47 52 55 0 0 44 0 0 0
Notice that these are byte-for-byte identical. So these are just two different ways of expressing the same idea. (I do see in your screenshot where you're mixing and matching syntax, trying to use [oscformat] syntax with [packOSC] -- nope, this is not going to work. They have different programming interfaces.)
I suggest to slow down and do some smaller scale tests to make sure you can get the right result from the lighting board. Integration should come later.
hjh
On-air light, trouble receiving int via OSC
@whale-av From that link you posted (@av-whale) I read this...
"OSC messages are not sent simply as text strings - the messages are assembled in a very specific format for transmission, including converting the int32 and float32 arguments to 32-bit values (either integer or floating point), and ensuring all parts of the message are 4-byte-aligned,"
This makes sense, because when I was sending messages formatted as [send xyz 123 456] I was getting an error on the x32 screen saying something like, "Message not formatted as 4-bytes" or something along those lines. I was coming up short trying to find info on that error, but this answers that question.
Thank you both! I'm going to try this today (as long as I can find some time). Super exciting! Thanks for spelling it out at the end of your reply @av-whale.
One thing I was going to say- the formatting like, [send /cs/chan/at/0] does work for the lighting board (to turn the on-air DMX light on/off, those messages are highlighted below), but I'm not getting anything in return (and don't need to).
Also, I had a bang connected to [send ch mix 2 on] in the last patch, but yeah the formatting wasn't quite right.
Again, thank you both. I'm going to look at the oscformat help patch and will post here (with findings) when I add it into the patch. Hopefully today.
On-air light, trouble receiving int via OSC
@jbaker It looks as though the X32 requires a type tag string in osc messages, where the the data atoms after the message header /this-that are defined as integer(32) float(32) string and blob.
The "livetoolkit software" is probably sending the type tag "behind the scenes".
You can list the first 3 types in any combination as required, or send all the data as a blob (maybe, I have always defined the data when this problem arises).
In Pd [oscformat] help has information on how to do that (see the [format( message to be applied), or you might be able to include the definitions in your message like this....... https://showcuesystems.com/scs11help/index.htm?context=1240
I am unsure whether that would work, as it might be a specific method for the software detailed in that post.... but the [format( message in Pd should do the job.
If you put a [print] after netreceive you will see returned messages and can confirm your port addresses, as obviously you need to actually be receiving data before it can work. Unfortunately the M32 just discards messages it does not understand.
So define your message header in [oscformat header]
Send in the message [format i(..... probably.
Send your data into [oscformat]
David.
ELSE 1.0-0 RC12 with Live Electronics Tutorial Released
Hi, it's been a while, here we go:
RELEASE NOTES:
Hi, it's been almost 8 months without an update and I never took this long!!! So there's a lot of new stuff to cover, because it's not like I've been just sleeping around
The reason for the delay is that I'm trying to pair up with the release cycles of PlugData and we're having trouble syncing up. PlugData 0.9.0 came out recently after a delay of 6 months and we couldn't really sync and pair up then... we had no luck in syncing for a new update now, so now I'm just releasing it up cause enough is enough, and hopefully in the next plugdata release we can sync and offer the same version.
As usual, the development pace is always quite busy and I'm just arbitrarily wrapping things up in the middle of adding more and more things that will just have to wait.
First, I had promised support for double precision. I made changes so we can build for it, but it's not really working yet when I uploaded to deken and tested it. So, next time?
And now for the biggest announcement: - I'm finally and officially releasing a new pack as a submodule, which is a set of abstractions inspired by EuroRack Modules, so I'm thinking of VCV like things but into the Pd paradigm. Some similar stuff has been made for Pd over the years, most notably and famously "Automatonism", but I'm really proud of what I'm offering. I'm not trying to pretend Pd is a modular rack and I'm taking advantage of being in Pd. I'm naming this submodule "Modular EuroRacks Dancing Along" (💩 M.E.R.D.A 💩) and I've been working on it for a year and a half now (amongst many other things I do). PlugData has been offering this for a while now, by the way. Not really fully in sync though.
MERDA modules are polyphonic, thanks to multichannel connections introduced in Pd 0.54! There are 20 modules so far and some are quite high level. I'm offering a PLAITS module based on the Mutable Instruments version. I have a 6-Op Phase Modulation module. A "Gendyn" module which is pretty cool. I'm also including an "extra" module that is not really quite a modular thing at all but fits well called "brane", which was a vanilla patch I first wrote like 15 years ago and is a cool granular live sampler and harmonizer. You'll also find the basics, like oscillators, filters, ADSR envelope and stuff I'm still working on. Lastly, a cool thing is that it has a nice presets system that still needs more work but is doing the job so far.
There are ideas and plans to add hundreds more MERDA modules, let's see when and if I can. People can collaborate and help me and create modules that follow the template by the way
Thanks to Tim Schoen, [play.file~] is now a compiled object instead of an abstraction and it supports MP3, FLAC, WAV, AIF, AAC, OGG & OPUS audio file extensions. A new [sfload] object can import these files into arrays (but still needs lots of more work). There are many other player objects in ELSE that can load and play samples but these don't yet support these new formats (hang in there for the next version update).
Tim also worked on new [pdlink] and [pdlink~] objects, which send control and signal data to/from Pd instances, versions and even forks of Pure Data (it's like [send]/[receive] and [send~]/[receive~], all you need is a symbol, no complicated network or OSC configuration!). And yes, it works via UDP between different computers on the same network. And hell yeah, [pdlink~] has multichannel connections support! By the way, you can also communicate to a [pd~] subprocess. This will be part of ELSE and PlugData of course, and will allow easy communication between PlugData and Pd-Vanilla for instance.
The great pd-lib-build system has been replaced for a 'cmake' build process called 'pd.build' by Pierre Guillot. This was supposed to simplify things. Also, the [sfont~] object was a nightmare to build and with several dependencies that was simply hell to manage, now we have a new and much simpler system and NO DEPENDENCIES AT ALL!!! Some very rare file formats with obscure and seldom sound file extensions may not work though... (and I don't care, most and the 'sane' ones will work). The object now also dumps all preset information with a new message and backwards compatibility broke a bit
I'm now back to offering a modified version of [pdlua] as part of ELSE, which has recently seen major upgrades by Tim to support graphics and signals! This is currently needed in ELSE to provide a new version of [circle] that needed to be rewritten in lua so it'd look the same in PlugData. Ideally I'd hope I could only offer compiled GUI objects, but... things are not ideal
The lua loader works by just loading the ELSE library, no need for anything "else". I'm not providing the actual [pdlua] and [pdluax] objects as they are not necessary, and this is basically the only modification. Since PlugData provides support for externals in lua, if you load ELSE you can make use of stuff made for PlugData with lua without the need to install [pdlua] in Pd-Vanilla.
For next, we're working on a [lua] object that will allow inline scripting and will also work for audio signals (again, wait for the next version)! Also for the next version, I'm saving Ben Wesch's nice 3d oscilloscope made in lua (it'll be called [scope3d~]). There's a lot going on with the lua development, which is very exciting.
As for more actual new objects I'm including, we have [vcf2~] and [damp.osc~]. The first is a complex one pole resonant filter that provides a damping oscillation for a ringing time you can set, the next is an oscillator based on it. There's also the new [velvet~] object, a cool and multichannel velvet noise generator that you can also adjust to morph into white noise.
I wasn't able to add multichannel capabilities to many existing objects in ELSE in this one, just a couple of them ([cosine~] and [pimp~]). Total number of objects that are multichannel aware now are: 92! This is almost a third of the number of audio objects in ELSE. I think that a bit over half might be a reasonably desired target. More multichannel support for existing objects to come in the next releases.
Total number of objects in the ELSE library is now 551!
As for the Live Electronics tutorial, as usual, there are new examples for new objects, and I made a good revision of the advanced filter section, where I added many examples to better explain how [slop~] works, with equivalent [fexpr~] implementations.
Total number of examples in the Live Electronics Tutorial is now 528!
There are more details of course, and breaking changes as usual, but these are the highlights! For a full changelog, check https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v.1.0-rc12 (or below at this post).
As mentioned, unfortunately, ELSE RC12 is not yet fully merged, paired up and 100% synced in PlugData. PlugData is now at version 0.9.1, reaching the 1.0 version soon. Since ELSE is currently so tightly synced to the development of PlugData, the idea is to finally offer a final 1.0 version of ELSE when PlugData 1.0 is out. Hence, it's getting closer than ever Hopefully we will have a 100% synced ELSE/PlugData release when 0.9.2 is out (with a RC 13 maybe?).
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ps. Binaries for mac/linux/windows are available via deken. I needed help for raspberry pi
CHANGELOG:
LIBRARY:
Breaking changes:
- [oscope~] renamed to [scope~]
- [plaits~] changed inlet order of modulation inputs and some method/flags name. If a MIDI pitch of 0 or less input is given, it becomes a '0hz'.
- [gbman~] changed signal output range, it is now filtered to remove DC and rescaled to a sane -1 to 1 audio range.
- [dust~] and [dust2~] go now up to the sample rate and become white noise (removed restriction that forced actual impulses, that is, no conscutive non zero values)
- [cmul~] object removed (this was only used in the old conv~ abstraction to try and reduce a bit the terrible CPU load)
- [findfile] object removed (use vanilla's [file which] now that it has been updated in Pd 0.55-0)
- [voices] swapped retrig modes 0 and 1, 'voices' renamed to 'n', now it always changes voice number by default as in [poly] (this was already happening unintentionally as a bug when one voice was already taken). The 'split' mode was removed (just use [route], will you?)
- [voices~] was also affected by changes in [voices] of course, such as 'voices' message being renamed to 'n'.
- [sr~]/[nyquist] changed output loading time to 'init' bang
- [sample~] object was significantly redesigned and lots of stuff changed, new messages and flags, added support for 64-bit audio files (Pd 0.55 in double precision and ELSE compiled for 64 bits is required for this). Info outlet now also outputs values for lenght in ms and bit depth.
- [sfont~] uses now a simpler build system and this might not load very very rare and unusual sound formats.
Enhancements/fixes/other changes:
- builds for double precision is now supposedly supported, by the way, the build system was changed from pd-lib-builder to pd.build by Pierre Guillot.
- [play.file~] is now a compiled object instead of an abstraction thanks to Tim Schoen, and it supports MP3, FLAC, WAV, AIF, AAC, OGG & OPUS file extensions.
- Support for double precision compilation was improved and should be working for all objects (not yet providing binaries and fully tested yet by the way).
- The ELSE binary now loads a modified version of [pdlua], but no [pdlua] and [pdluax] objects are provided.
- added signal to 2nd inlet of [rm~].
- fixed 'glide' message for [mono~].
- fixed [voices] consistency check bug in rightmost outlet and other minor bugs, added flags for 'n', 'steal' and offset.
- [gain~] and [gain2~] changed learn/forget shortcut
- [knob] fixed sending messages to 'empty' when it shouldn't, ignore nan/inf, prevent a tcl/tk error if lower and upper values are the same; added "learn/forget" messages and shortcut for a midi learn mechanism.
- [mpe.in] now outputs port number and you can select which port to listen to.
- Other MIDI in objects now deal with port number encoded to channel as native Pd objects. Objects affected are [midi.learn], [midi.in], [note.in], [ctl.in], [bend.in], [pgm.in], [touch.in] and [ptouch.in].
- [pi]/[e] now takes a value name argument.
- [sr~]/[nyquist~] take clicks now and a value name argument.
- fixed phase modulation issues with [impulse~] and [pimp~].
- [cosine~] fixed sync input.
- added multichannel features to [cosine~] and [pimp~].
- [plaits~] added a new 'transp' message and a functionality to allow MIDI input to supersede signal connections (needed for the 'merda' version [see below]), fixed MIDI velocity.
- [pluck~] added a new functionality to allow MIDI input to supersede signal connections (needed for the 'merda' version [see below]).
- 26 new objects, [velvet~], [vcf2~], [damp.osc~], [sfload], [pdlink] and [pdlink~], plus abstractions from a newly included submodule called "Modular Euro Racks Dancing Along" (M.E.R.D.A)! Warning, this is all just very very experimental still, the object are: [adsr.m~], [brane.m~], [chorus.m~], [delay.m~], [drive.m~], [flanger.m~], [gendyn.m~], [lfo.m~], [phaser.m~], [plaits.m~], [plate.rev.m~], [pluck.m~], [pm6.m~], [presets.m], [rm.m~], [seq8.m~], [sig.m~], [vca.m~], [vcf.m~] and [vco.m~] (6 of these are multichannel aware).
Objects count: total of 551 (307 signal objects [92 of which are MC aware] and 244 control objects)!
- 311 coded objects (203 signal objects / 108 control objects
- 240 abstractions (104 signal objects / 136 control objects)
TUTORIAL:
- New examples and revisions to add the new objects, features and breaking changes in ELSE.
- Added a couple of examples for network communication via FUDI and [pdlink]/[pdlink~]
- Section 36-Filters(Advanced) revised, added more examples and details on how [slop~] works.
- Total number of examples is now 528!
Pd compiled for double-precision floats and Windows
@ddw_music I love that story but am scratching my head over the 1/10 example you gave. Here's a test I made in Arduino c++:
I went out 40 digits and didn't see anything unexpected. Was that example you gave just a metaphor for the issue, or is my test naive?
Getting back to how Pd seems to differ from other programming languages, I'm going to hazard a guess and say that Pd hasn't separated the value of a float from its display/storage format. In my Arduino code I declare values, but it's not until the print statements that I specify their display formats. It's similar in Java and c#. I wonder if Pd could do something similar without upsetting users or making it too unfriendly? Maybe number boxes and arrays have an extra property that is a numeric format string? Or set messages for messages end in a numeric format string? Format strings shouldn't be too unfamiliar to those who've used makefilename. And if the format string is missing, then Pd defaults to it's current single-precision truncation strategy?
PS I hope my attempt at humor didn't discourage @porres from responding to @oid's question. I'm sure he would have something more meaningful to contribute.
Edit: hmm, but here's Pd64.
Yet another edit: I found this in Microsoft Excel help, but it suggests the value should be slightly less, not more that 0.1. Plus, Excel shows 0.1 exactly.
Yet another edit edit: disregard my comment about expecting it to be less, I didn't account for normalization of the mantissa. Carry on.
Receive audio from Pythjon thru UDP.
I have latest version of Pyo, I compiled using make command.
I am afraid that I cant make it work. But I am still thinking - there MUST be a way how to tranfer data from python to PD and simultaneously back to python without being limited with limited sample rate and latency and other problems of virtual audio devices(the only way I managed it to work so far). I was now again trying to use mrpeach's [udpreceive~] and [udpsend~], using now 3channel 8bit communication to send each color channel separately and at the same time not be limited with the fact that [udpreceive~] receives correctly only the first byte of the python format (as @fishcrystals states, it receives correctly only values 0-255, which is 8 bit format). But the format that [udpreceive~] requires seems totally cryptic to me when it comes to multichannel audio and I didn't manage to reverse engineer that using [udpsend~] either. There is no documentation for this and I didn't even find any contact on Martin Peach himself. So I am completely lost now. @alexandros let me know if you managed to make the Pyo pd embedded work. And if somebody has any ideas how I could continue, or at least a contact to mrpeach, that would be very appreciated and helpful, because I really feel there has to be a solution to this fairly simple question.
read multiple wav using readsf
Dorisma said:
I don't use the audio wav files format anymore because it is difficult to read and causes many problems. Instead, I decided to convert on https://convertr.org/wav-to-mp3 all the files in mp3 format supported by any application.
I realize this is a couple years old comment now, but: [soundfiler] does not support mp3 format.
I'm not sure which audio programming environments do support MP3.
- Pd, no ("soundfiler read: /home/xxxxx/Music/23-0714-ambient-jam.mp3: unknown header format").
- Max/MSP, no ("can't open").
- SuperCollider, no ("File '/home/xxxxx/Music/23-0714-ambient-jam.mp3' could not be opened: Format not recognised.").
- I don't have ChucK or Reaktor, can't test those. Reaktor might support MP3 since it's a commercial product. ChucK... reference docs for SndBuf seem difficult to locate, so, I give up, I don't know.
So the approach of converting all WAVs to MP3 seems to be based on a mistaken assumption. For use with Pd, this is not the way to go.
hjh
Receive audio from Pythjon thru UDP.
@whale-av thanks! I finally managed to send audio from Python to pd, where i can receive it. the problem, though, is - that the audio i send (I use some music for testing that i send to python thru virtual sound card) seems to be distorted when played out from pd's [dac~] unless its played at a very low volume. Any slightly higher volume turns the sound very fast to distorted noise. This seemed to me to be a problem with unmatching bitrate, but I didnt find any proof for this.
What I have managed to find out until now is, that in order to send the audio from Python to pd [udpreceive~] object, it is necessary to send it in a certain format (which i found out by receiving data from [udpsend~] to Python) - the format being two alternating messages sent together - first one containing "header" - set of 24 integers somehow defining the bitrate, channel count, chunk size etc., second one containing one chunk of audio data. I dont understand much the meaning of the 24 integers, but what i did is that i sent 16 bit audio with 512 blocksize thru [udpsend~] to Python and copied the header to use it for reverse direction (which i need). I send the data thru pyaudio in a 16 bit format and use the header I copied from [udpsend~]. Even the [udpreceive~] help file shows the incoming audio format as 16 bit, so I suppose it is not a bitrate problem. Do you have any idea why this is happening? thanks.
Are some of the formatting controls broken?
Some of the formatting controls seem to be broken, e.g.
bold
italic
list
link
I just tried formatting each of these words with the corresponding formatting control by highlighting the word and clicking the control. That's the way I remember things used to work. I can sometimes get things to work if I go to my old posts and look at what the characters are and then enter them manually, but even that doesn't work consistently. I'm on Chrome/Windows. Am I doing something wrong?
(I just formatted "wrong" in italics bold by putting 3 stars before and after it)