@porres said:

Holy fucking shit, how did that get by?

also fixed

@porres said:

yup, can reproduce such weird as hell thing

fixed in master

This oughta do what you want...

@gentleclockdivider said:

in the first inlet of merge 16 it will output a list as expected becauseit's hot , but so does the 13 th input ..which is weird

yup, can reproduce such weird as hell thing

@gentleclockdivider said:

Join 3 where third inlet is symbol
Then unjoin 3 , third outlet is a decimal : 1.91027e-20

Holy fucking shit, how did that get by?

What is the issue? Can you report?

oh, you said it's [join] and not [zl.join]...

well... cyclone also has [join]

and ELSE has [merge], which is basically the same...

so yeah, you have many options.

@gentleclockdivider said:

Is there any way how to actually see how pack works internally , or any other object for that matter

well, it's open source, you can look at the code. Help file also tells you how it works. The help file of [pack] clearly states that the left inlet allows "anythings"

Really wish pd has someting like that

Pd is not MAX, it doesn't work like MAX. Having said all that... Pd has Cyclone, and Cyclone has [zl join].... (and all other [zl] thingies).

else has [else/bicoeff] that calculcates the coefficients for biquad. You can check the code for the formulas.

My tutorial that comes with ELSE also shows how to calculate them all in Pd abstractions with [expr], see "advanced filters".

I have plans to suggest an abstraction in "extra" for Pd for this.

@rg.kies said:

the last time @timothyschoen made suggestions to leave out [pd.link~] but especially that object would be great on a raspberry pi!

Not sure if this is possible right now, thanks for recalling that.

By the way, I had to upload a "revision" that fixes [popmenu] and [note] for Linux/Windows https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v.1.0-rc13