sure, but I was actually replying to @sebpiq

the new releases of else carry this new function already

again, as @electrickery said, [coll] is actually an associative array and can associate symbols with symbols.

why are you still using extended? it carries a very old cyclone library, for instance, with 0.1 versions @electrickery ressurected it back and made a great 0.2 release, me and others have carried on and now there's a 0.3 version you can use in vanilla. But anyway, I guess coll will work for what you want in Pd extended anyhow...

cheers

not sure if you've also documented [list fromsymbol] and [list tosymbol] as well

Actually, better put, it seems [list cat] in Purr Data is just a limited version of [list store], which can append, prepend and do more things in Pd Vanilla. So they're very different, cause [list store] is more powerful, so it just seems that [list cast] is superfluous. So when I ask how different they are, it was more of a rhetorical question... I see now that I tested that there are different design choices, where [list cat] keeps outputting values when appending. I personally think it makes more sense the way this is handled in [list store], where you get the list you want in the end with a bang.

it seems [list cat] in Purr Data is similar to [list store] in Pd Vanilla. How is it different? BTW, I don't see [list store] documented in Purr Data.

@pure_datum said:

[list cat]

what's that?

Another quick update close in time

see https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v1.0-beta20

and https://github.com/porres/Live-Electronic-Music-Tutorial/releases/tag/v1.0-beta-10

Only a week after my last update, I had to release a fix because I had badly screwed up the [function] object, that was bad... I enjoyed the opportunity to enhance the object as well. I just still need to figure out how to create a properties window.

more about the updates here: https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v1.0-beta19 and here https://github.com/porres/Live-Electronic-Music-Tutorial/releases/tag/v1.0-beta-9

binaries are still coming up and showing up in deken

cheers

Howdy, I have big updates to the ELSE library and my Live Electronics Tutorial!
Raspberry Pi binaries for ELSE are still missing, but it'll be up soon. Find available releases on github while they don't show up in deken.: https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v1.0-beta18

There are 30 new objects in ELSE. This is the first release over 300 objects and there's already 324 of them! I'm shocked on how much it's growing... I realize now how this library is unique in the number of objects towards DSP and audio processing. There are 219 tilde objects, that's more objects than Pd itself has, or all of cyclone...

So, what's the most exciting new stuff?
There's a bunch of reverb objects here - [mono.rev~], [stereo.rev~], [echo.rev~], [giga.rev~], [free.rev~] (check also [fdn.rev~] which wasn't really ready).
There are a few dynamic processors as well: [compress~], [duck~] and [expand~].
A couple of FX like [chorus~] and [phaser~].
A [spectrograph~] object.
Some objects that deal with lists ([regroup], [pick], [sort], [scramble], [merge], [unmerge] & [rand.seq]).
A [trigger2] object that behaves like [trigegr] in Purr Data and Max, that people from time to time request to be in Pd as well (if Pd's trigger includes such functionalities, I'll delete this object).

Check complete changelog here: https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v1.0-beta18 . As usual, I have breaking changes while we're at the beta stage.

As for my Live Electronics tutorial, which is based on this library, most of the changes reflect the new objects from the ELSE library. So then, most importantly, the reverb section just got a major upgrade. I'm also now including an appendix with s quick start on Data Structures! Check it out at https://github.com/porres/Live-Electronic-Music-Tutorial/releases/tag/v1.0-beta-8

cheers