well, Pd 0.57 is coming out and [receive] now has an inlet, and there's a [list foreach] for iteration

purr data doesn't take Pd externals, just what they ship... and it's outdated and not paired/compatible to current vanilla

good, fixing it

report at https://github.com/porres/pd-else/issues

not sure what you need, but I could look into and add one to ELSE

well, then be happy there's no limit go crazy on it

no, like I said, i guess there's no limit does that bother you? do you think it should have?

@jameslo said:

Is there a maximum size for the impulse response table for [else/conv~]? I loaded a 30s one and got no warnings.

I guess not

if you change the table, the object needs to be reinitalized so it reloads the table. Maybe I could add that to the documentation or add a 'reload' message. Please open an issue/request on github

"To Pd-announce:

Pd version 0.56-3 is available from https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

This fixes some problems in 0.56-2. Changes are summarized in release notes: https://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/5.current.status.htm#s5.1

cheers
Miller"

Release notes:

Fixed broken "keyup" object (IOhannes).

Improvements to window titles and IEM GUI settings (IOhannes).

Ben Wesch improved updating the Pd colors without recreating windows.

Documentation updates (Alexandre).

Fixed a situation in which Pd hangs when failing to connect to jack device in linux.

Updates to the "deken" ("find externals") mechanism.

Many other bug fixes.

how about using MPE in the sfz~ object?

it was added in the last available release (RC1`4, from september./2025), but plugdata never included it in a stable release. Currently, nightly carries the current master state of RC15

@ddw_music said:

Come to think of it... why does else/sfz~ truncate note numbers? You're not bound by the limits of the MIDI protocol; why not fully support fractional note numbers?

that is a good request. Open an issue?

cool, I thought you wanted particular scales, like 8th tones, which is the first example in here

see else/width~ and else/spread~ for stereo spreading

else/sfz~ has support for mictrotones

I didn't look at that patch, all I am saying is that I think it's important to have audio signals triggering the object. If you just want to use MIDI, you don;t really need it, but my library is fully sample rate accurate, like a modular environment. I wouldn't know how to do that with Vanilla, seems impossible or dreadfully hard/crazy with all my features.

The [slop~] object is sample rate accurate though.

@JuanMadrid said:

And you are right, to develope the ADSR with vline was complicated foir me. I spent several hours,

and for me it's important that the gate value is an audio signal and that simply can't be done with [vline~]. A proper envelope should also be able to be retrigerred while the gate is on. When I added yet even more features like I did, it simply gets impossible to be done with Vanilla.

it was historically immediate release by default, but in that particular version I was trying to accommodate more features and kinda screwed up... and now it'll be back immediate release with yet more features, so I was able to find a way to accommodate things.

It's hard to add features without breaking things.

By the way. I don't think [vline~] can be considered an envelope generator at all... you can do it, but it's a lot of hassle and it's only linear and very limited. For you to be able to deal with exponential curves and all the things I provide in my envelope generator is just virtually impossible with vanilla.

of course [else/adsr~] is much more powerful and offers more exponential curves. I find the one pole filter solution not that great, but I haven't bothered on trying to implement something like that in Vanilla

Note that the new stuff I pointed above are already part of the experimental/nightly builds of PlugData.

As for designing envelopes, I have the "Live Electronics Tutorial", an extensive tutorial and all things ELSE and Pd, which is also distributed as part of the PlugData documentation. I have an example on how to build exponential envelopes over there, see

here's a screenshot you'll find in chapter 17

I also have added something like this to the help file of [slop~]