cool, I wanna give a go at something like this, but was looking for the exact filter emulation/design

Life's too short to live without externals

It's not extended who died only, the real bummer is that the vast majority of those libraries were dead before the plug was pulled from extended, and for all that is worth, you can still download them into vanilla. Not much would have changed if it was around.

Just look for externals that are actively being developed and easily available

[else/tabgen] does that for you, check it out

the help of [function] also tells about [envgen~]

and also [function~] by the way

@gentleclockdivider said:

Whenever a question is answered on an forum , I reply on the other forums that it has been solved .

Apparently this is flawed, as you weren't quick enough this time I answered on facebook, but then I see @lacuna did gave the exact same answer in here. There you go, you made two people work, independently, and waste the time of one of us for something that the other already took care of elsewhere...

I don't have a favourit channel and dislike favourism in general .

ok, pick one randomly then

@porres might sound a bit aggressive,

I reckon that, and I'm sorry. This is the best I can do actually and being bluntly honest is not really a matter of being aggressive, it's just how my brain operates. I actually hate to play the neurodivergent's card, and that hasn't worked great since I finally found out about it... but yeah, I have no politeness filter and hopefully if I say that people won't take things too personally, like saying I'm here to "harass".

I have nothing but devotion for this piece of software, this community, and I'll do whatever I can, always, to help and contribute. I am really just coming out to say that I think you should work on improving your participation here @gentleclockdivider and I'm sorry the way I come out, but then, nobody else was having the urge to come out and say things with honesty.

cheers

@gentleclockdivider said:

@porres
I post on multiple forums because that way I get answers more quickly

You're just confirming what I said, that you think your time is more valuable than other's, which is also being quite selfish. I know it's convenient to you, of course, but if you cared about not being inconvenient to others, you wouldn't do that.

Also, please try to read the documentation. You ask many questions that could be prevented from carefully reading a help file. Again, I know it's more convenient to you to not waste time studying and just throw questions everywhere and wait for the generousity of other human beings (cause you know, we're not ChatGPT) to teach you basic things for free.

You seem to be investing a lot in Pd, you're working a lot with it and you show you really want to know it, to the point you're ignoring about externals cause "you wanna lear how to do it yourself". If you wanna really dive in and learn it so badly, just RTFM, right?

I know that this one question was something hard to get from the help file itself, and I was actually grateful for your question cause it made me improve it. But also, been already annoyed many other times and if you read the audio examples you'd find out about the [line~] vs [vline~] deal, and I guess that'd be good for you and I guess you may learn a lot more if you spend some effort.

Don't hesitate to make more questions but please just make it sure and clear to us that you're at least trying to do your homework beforehand.

cheers

you know, if you have a question, you should probably first stick to your favorite/most used channel, and then if you don't get answers you may wanna go to other channels. Seeing the same thing on facebook, in here and on the discord channel is overwhelming and you do that a lot, for basic things, not for things that you probably want the input of as many people as you can. And then you also force people to reply to the same thing when it probably has been resolved elsewhere, which is simply a waste of time for others... and you just keep flooding with many messages. Seriously, it's kind of annoying and somewhat disrespectful as it seems you feel like you deserve a lot of attention for basic things and that our time is not as worth as yours.

like I said, it changed, I now fixed the help file

@melter note that I made some breaking changes to [format], it only outputs a symbol now

@melter said:

No idea about the [highpass~] erro

you compiled the latest source at master, right? I am working on highpass and had screwed it up, just fixed it.

As for the compilation issues with ffmpeg, well, that's the problem we were having before and @timothyschoen needs to sort it out I can't help there. The new build system is a change he did and the linkage and inclusion of ffmpeg was also his work to include it in [sfload] and [play.file~].

Like I said, in a couple of weeks we'll have a new update and I hope we can have this sorted and made available.

We're running into issues building for the Pi... Like I said, I hope @timothyschoen helps us deal with them so we can build it. And note that RC13 is coming out in a couple of weeks or so by the way

how come you can't install the lates Pd in Bela? Why is it so outdated? Pd 0.56 is about to come out sometime soon and this is 5 YEARS behind

seems RC9 is indeed the last provided pi update? isn't it in deken? here it is --> https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v1.0-rc9

I'm about to release an update soon and I hope @timothyschoen and others can help me provide a pi binary

thanks @jameslo people were complaining so I did my best to make them stop saying pd's documentation is crap ahahhahaa

last year we did a nice manual revision, I hope to make a bigger manual overhaul sometime soon

I could put a note about this on the manual, but no one will read it anyway what do you think?

I had a closer look, but could not figure out where to set the number of
inputs and outputs with PlugData.

So @xaverius, I spoke with @timothyschoen and it seems this is an issue with Linux only. You can't configure that from within plugdata, but that's a limitation of JUCE. Nevertheless you can set it up inside JACK and it should be possible.

And yes, I was able to install and instantiate a vstplugin~ object.
Unfortunatelly, I can not use it. It's too instable and PlugData always
crashes (Ubuntu Studio 24.04, PludData 0.9.1). An advantage of
Purr-Data, it's really stable.

How can you compare the stability of vstplugin~ inside PurrData since you can't even install it over there?

I do assume that such a complex external like vstplugin~ may have issues if running on PlugData, as the target development was Vanilla, and you should actually "blame" external developers for such case of instability.

Ayway, Like you said and know, PlugData is quite actively developed and bugs are fixed quickly and you can download nightly builds with the most recent fixes and updates quite easily, but you have to report issues and collaborate at least iwth that.

@xaverius said:

I cannot operate sliders, buttons and switches properly with my fingers on my touchscreen (I don't know why, but no precise response).

have you reported a bug on github? @timothyschoen is also here to help

Seems to be more actively developed.

Definitely of all forks, it's unbeatable also in keeping up with vanilla at every update.

Offers built-in effects and instruments etc (I prefer to create such abstractions on my own).

those are actually from ELSE, my library, which can also be installed in Vanilla, so not something just from PlugData. Cool thing about PlugData is that it doesn't follow this idea to provide things (objects I mean) you can only find there.

I can only set 1 input and 1 output (no-go for me, I'm using 8 ins and 8 outs).

Well, this is definitely possible, right Tim?

@xaverius said:

For my purpose even better than PlugData.

Ok, now I'm curious on what the purpose is and why you prefer it

It's not only about being outdated, which in fact it's finally catching up, but there are several incompatibilities issues and one of them is that you can't use binaries compiled for Vanilla in it, which is one of the main downers if you ask me. I wanted that at least non GUI externals from ELSE could run there, specially now that there's an effort to bring it up to date, but as it turns out, it's not simple... and I was surprised that this was true as well. I guess you have to compile it yourself somehow against purr data or pd l2ork, but the build system is just different and you'd probably need to adapt many things... :/

@kevin.cascadia said:

Did RC13 for raspberry pi ever come together? I’m really interested in patching with the new sfont~ object for my C&G Organelle.

RC13 is not released yet, I meant RC12 in that old comment, which is the last current release.

We're gonna release an update soon in a couple of weeks, and I hope @timothyschoen helps us dealingwith the issues for building for raspberry pi. It is on my list to try and make this available for the pi and I hope there are people out there who can help me building it and testing it.

unfortunately I don't have a pi in hand with me...