And PlugData also makes the best job keeping up with the latest Vanilla

Just use Vanilla people I don't see forks giving you much more, besides PlugData of course, which does load Pd as a plug in (besides working hard on the GUI).

that's more alive and kicking, but also no external compatibility and lagging behind some libraries (though I hope they're finally updating cyclone)

well, Pd 0.57 is coming out and [receive] now has an inlet, and there's a [list foreach] for iteration

purr data doesn't take Pd externals, just what they ship... and it's outdated and not paired/compatible to current vanilla

good, fixing it

report at https://github.com/porres/pd-else/issues

not sure what you need, but I could look into and add one to ELSE

well, then be happy there's no limit go crazy on it

no, like I said, i guess there's no limit does that bother you? do you think it should have?

@jameslo said:

Is there a maximum size for the impulse response table for [else/conv~]? I loaded a 30s one and got no warnings.

I guess not

if you change the table, the object needs to be reinitalized so it reloads the table. Maybe I could add that to the documentation or add a 'reload' message. Please open an issue/request on github

"To Pd-announce:

Pd version 0.56-3 is available from https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

This fixes some problems in 0.56-2. Changes are summarized in release notes: https://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/5.current.status.htm#s5.1

cheers
Miller"

Release notes:

Fixed broken "keyup" object (IOhannes).

Improvements to window titles and IEM GUI settings (IOhannes).

Ben Wesch improved updating the Pd colors without recreating windows.

Documentation updates (Alexandre).

Fixed a situation in which Pd hangs when failing to connect to jack device in linux.

Updates to the "deken" ("find externals") mechanism.

Many other bug fixes.

how about using MPE in the sfz~ object?

it was added in the last available release (RC1`4, from september./2025), but plugdata never included it in a stable release. Currently, nightly carries the current master state of RC15

@ddw_music said:

Come to think of it... why does else/sfz~ truncate note numbers? You're not bound by the limits of the MIDI protocol; why not fully support fractional note numbers?

that is a good request. Open an issue?

cool, I thought you wanted particular scales, like 8th tones, which is the first example in here

see else/width~ and else/spread~ for stereo spreading

else/sfz~ has support for mictrotones

I didn't look at that patch, all I am saying is that I think it's important to have audio signals triggering the object. If you just want to use MIDI, you don;t really need it, but my library is fully sample rate accurate, like a modular environment. I wouldn't know how to do that with Vanilla, seems impossible or dreadfully hard/crazy with all my features.

The [slop~] object is sample rate accurate though.

@JuanMadrid said:

And you are right, to develope the ADSR with vline was complicated foir me. I spent several hours,

and for me it's important that the gate value is an audio signal and that simply can't be done with [vline~]. A proper envelope should also be able to be retrigerred while the gate is on. When I added yet even more features like I did, it simply gets impossible to be done with Vanilla.