Hi David,

I downloaded the externals you mentioned.

Opening the tracklist button i get:

l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create

opening cart5 i get:

invert
... couldn't create
count 1
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
initbang
... couldn't create
l $1
... couldn't create
print_long
... couldn't create
counter
... couldn't create

Sorry that I have little experience and can't understand what to do in these cases.

It looks like Î should have some extra patches. For example initbang is not recognized; same for print_long.

The tracklist opens the directory but recognizes no .wav files (i have replaced the spaces with underscores).

I also send my patch in attachment. It is quite messy, but working for files named m1, m2, v1, v2, etc. the idea is simple, all my .wav files have 10 seconds lenght, and there will be a superimposition of two .wav files at the same time, when block A is at 5 seconds, block B enters, and when block A finishes it goes to folder A to get another file.

But if you help me on the files you sent I can adapt your code to my patch, I think I could work it out.

Thanks in advance
Nando
blocks.pd

Hello! Trying to get this working and installed PD-Extended using the Windows installer here. However, I'm still missing a lot of objects needed to run the patch. @whale-av suggested using the help browser to get the right library- does anyone know what library/-ies I need to get these objects?

expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License
list-extend
... couldn't create
list-minmax
... couldn't create
l
... couldn't create
pink~
... couldn't create
pmenu v0.31 by tof
getdir
... couldn't create
splitfilename .
... couldn't create
splitfilename /
... couldn't create
splitfilename .
... couldn't create
splitfilename /
... couldn't create
getdir
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
midiparse
... couldn't create
list-extend
... couldn't create
list-dripslow
... couldn't create
l
... couldn't create
l
... couldn't create
once
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux 1 2 3 4
... couldn't create
list-extend
... couldn't create
list-delete
... couldn't create
list-find
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
l
... couldn't create
l
... couldn't create
list-nth
... couldn't create
l
... couldn't create
mux 1 2
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
list-sort
... couldn't create
mux 1 2
... couldn't create
midiin: windows: not supported
tanh~
... couldn't create
l2s -
... couldn't create
time
... couldn't create
date
... couldn't create
getdir
... couldn't create
z~ 64
... couldn't create
z~ 64
... couldn't create

MouseState
... couldn't create
l2s
... couldn't create
list-idx
... couldn't create
list-delete 0 1
... couldn't create
deny 0
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
list-idx
... couldn't create
list-delete 0 1
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux 0 1 2
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
list-drip
... couldn't create
colorpanel
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
demux
... couldn't create
pmenu: 'default' is not an available option.
signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)
signal outlet connect to nonsignal inlet (ignored)

@ddw_music Pd is all about messages...... and so it is all about lists..... strings of data "grouped" together as a "thing".
A string...... but not... because the atoms are all separate and can be of different types.... symbols, floats, etc.
So then it becomes about manipulating those lists.
Sub-routines can be called..... and we call them abstractions..... and they can be given arguments at creation or passed arguments whilst running.
Abstractions can also be created or even built dynamically by sending messages to a patch or sub-patch.
Externals...... abstractions that run code..... have been made by some clever people.

Tagging the data as you suggest is one way of sorting.
You can also sort by position in a list...... by undeclared index.
The list-abs library of abstractions contains much of what you will need, although there are newer externals in recent Pd Vanilla that can achieve the same.
I uploaded it recently here if you need it....... https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12125/how-should-i-use-list-drip-to-compare-another-list-drip-s-items/12

The real difference of data flow programming is that it is always "running".
So mistakes are seen straight away which is a huge advantage for us noobs.
David.

vdhs~ $0-pitshft
... couldn't create
vdhs~ $0-pitshft
... couldn't create
iemlib/lp4_butt~ 20000 5
... couldn't create
zexy/nop
... couldn't create
delwritec~ $0-pitshft $1
... couldn't create
zexy/demultiplex~
... couldn't create
rminus~ 1
... couldn't create
zexy/demultiplex~
... couldn't create
rminus~ 1
... couldn't create

pfff, never mind

Greetings,

I have been off pd since 0.47.1 and I only just updated OSX to High Sierra, which prompted an install of Pd 0.48.1.
In the previous version I had installed Gem via Deken, using the instructions found at:
http://puredatajapan.info/?p=2073

1. Using deken, click Help menu – Find externals. Install “libdir” at first.
   2.Install Gem via deken
2. add paths
   etc.
   However, trying the same now, after restarting Pd, it cant' find gem nor libdir

stuck...

However, if I do same without adding a start-up link, I can create, for e.g., a gemwin object but I get a whole bunch or errors:

... couldn't create
GLdefine GL_LINEAR
... couldn't create
GLdefine GL_EXP
... couldn't create
GLdefine GL_EXP2
... couldn't create
GLdefine GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT
... couldn't create
GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT
... couldn't create
GLdefine GL_STENCIL_BUFFER_BIT
... couldn't create
GEMglMatrixMode

etc....

I think I am missing something fundamental, but is it because there is no 64-bit but only 32-bit version of Gem fr OS X?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

S

Hi everyone,

I am comming to you today because i want to make a project live !.
This project work with pureData and some external pd object :
fluid~ , freeverb~..

My objectiv is to install a 32 bits version of pureData to make external pd work.

I tried these solutions :
Multi arch ubuntu 64 bits host

• On a 64 bits ubuntu
  - add i386 arch
  - update , dist-upgrade..

Then when installing : $> apt-get install puredata:i386
This package is no more available :
These packet a replacing it :

puredata-utils puredata-utils:i386 puredata-extra:i386 puredata-core:i386
puredata-core puredata-dev puredata-doc puredata-extra puredata-gui

So i installed

$> apt-get install puredata-utils:i386 puredata-extra:i386 puredata-core:i386 puredata-gui

pureData is now installed. But when i run it i have this message :

ALSA lib conf.c:3357:(snd_config_hooks_call) Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so
ALSA lib control.c:954:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL hw:0
ALSA card scan error

Still i can use the debugger and hear sound..

When running my stido project using some object like :
udpReceive or udpSend...

i got this on the initialisation (you can see also all the pd objects used) :

import mrpeach/routeOSC
... couldn't create
 import mrpeach/udpreceive
... couldn't create
 import mrpeach/udpsend
... couldn't create
 import mrpeach/packOSC
... couldn't create
 import mrpeach/unpackOSC
... couldn't create
 import flatspace/prepend
... couldn't create
 import flatspace/prepend
... couldn't create
 import moocow/sprinkler
... couldn't create
 import cyclone/speedlim
... couldn't create
./libs/fluid~.pd_linux: libreadline.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 fluid~
... couldn't create
 freeverb~
... couldn't create
beware! this is xeq 0.1, 3rd beta build... it may bite!
./

So its not working ^^

Solution 2 - Docker

I was thinking : maybe i can just make a puredata container with all the 32 bits libs, So i tried to find some puredata 32 bits image. But nothing.. And Docker is a little tricky with 32 bits container as he didn't provide any support yet.

Still its possible to run 32 bits linux on it .. i found some 32 bits images on the net, but no way how to create one..

If someone has a solution please..

I am working as a volunteer on this project because i believe on it. I have no time yet to update the pd engine for 64 bits..
This project is helping disabled people and your respons will help me so much to provide them a long term support for this software

If you wanna take a look at the project http://orguesensoriel.com

Thank you a lot,

Damien

After porting [list store] to Purr Data, quickly skimming the code it appears that for each iteration [list-abs/list-drip] has to walk a linked list requiring ten pointer dereferences, whereas the abstraction around [list store] only needs to walk five. The only other difference is that [list store] makes some calls to alloca, but that should be in favor of the [list-abs/list-drip] algo which doesn't require any alloca calls. So I'm guessing the time spent allocating on the stack is insignificant.

It would be interesting to somehow compare to an object chain where the objects are traversed as an array instead of a linked list. (More like how signal objects are traversed.) I'm going to speculate that the time saved iterating array elements vs. chasing pointers would bring [list-abs/list-drip] and the list-store approach closer together.

Tried using the streamstretch~ abstraction by William Brent (http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html) recently.

However, when I loading the patch from the associated help file in pd-extended, it won't work. I get the following error messages:

 clone ./lib/streamstretch-buf-writer-abs 100 2415
... couldn't create
 text define $0-streamstretch-chord-text
... couldn't create
 text get $0-streamstretch-chord-text
... couldn't create
 text tolist $0-streamstretch-chord-text
... couldn't create
 text fromlist $0-streamstretch-chord-text
... couldn't create
 clone ./lib/streamstretch-buf-writer-abs 100 1536
... couldn't create

Tried loading the patch in Pd Vanilla and I still get error messages:

 clone ./lib/streamstretch-buf-writer-abs 100 2415
... couldn't create
 clone ./lib/streamstretch-buf-writer-abs 100 1004
... couldn't create

I'm just wondering if anyone else gets the same kinds of error messages when they try to load this abstraction.

I have downloaded Pduino 0.5 and have copied the arduino and arduino help patch into the folder where I am saving my puredata files.
but some how things are not working
clicking the device message is yeilding a set of errors
what do I do
I am pasting the message in the console window below:
zexy/unpack float float
... couldn't create
mapping/tolist
... couldn't create
mapping/tolist
... couldn't create
comport $1 57600
... couldn't create
mapping/debytemask
... couldn't create
mapping/debytemask
... couldn't create
mapping/debytemask
... couldn't create
mapping/debytemask
... couldn't create
mapping/debytemask
... couldn't create
mapping/debytemask
... couldn't create
mapping/debytemask
... couldn't create
mapping/debytemask
... couldn't create
moocow/string2any 32 -1
... couldn't create
mapping/tolist
... couldn't create
mapping/tolist
... couldn't create
cyclone/prepend
... couldn't create
[arduino]: version_0.5

please suggest whr I am going wrong
I cannot list my port using the devices message

@whale-av said:

@Liquidyzer This contains all of the patches below and a sample..... open sample.zip
The first example...... open_sample.pd
Basically "open" is just dropped..... you could put "list" instead, or "woof"....... or any symbol (try it if you don't believe me).
The "open" or "woof" says to Pd "this is a list" The message then sends a list of one atom....... "track1.wav" which replaces $1.
Without the "list" tag the next message box complains..... the $1 expects an atom from a list.
Yes, it's not obvious, but it is documented in many help files in the Pd installation.
A series of symbols and floats that starts with a float is automatically a "list".
So [1 woof 3( is a list and all the atoms are passed onwards and can be translated by $1 $2 and $3.
But [track1.wav( is a symbol........ not a list. By putting more than one symbol it becomes a list as with [open track1.wav(........ but "open" is translated as a "tag" that says...... this is a list....... and so is not passed onwards. "track1.wav" is passed onwards as the list.

You can do the same thing with [pack s]...... packing the symbol "track1.wav" into a list.
open_sample2.pd

You don't need to include $1 (track1.wav) in the array name, but it helps if you want to write many samples to many arrays, and know which one is which....... or using [pack s $0] you can get $0 into the array name as you wished...... open_sample3.pd
David.

Thanks David, super detailed response, what I was looking for! I'll crack on with this and see how I get on