Hi, on abstraction creation there is the possibility to use arguments like "myptach 0.5". This is easy possible using control rate, but how about arguments regarding signal rates in combination with signal rate inlets? I don't seem to get it to work. Something like "mypatch~ 0.5". Can someone help?

Thank you : )

inlet~ helpfile

Connect [f $1] to [inlet~].
Or use [sig~ $1] ? Not sure what you want to do?

on calling an abstraction i want to be able to control data with a creation argument but overwrite with the inlets signal. not sure if this clears it up?

connect the $1 to inlet~ instead of pow~

here I found this page https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/13087/abstractions-as-creation-arguments-things-i-wish-i-knew-before

I added a bit for extra explaination after looking quickly

FWIW, in abstractions I generally avoid the [f $1], [symbol $2] type of usage because now the user is obligated to supply a value for every dollary-thingy -- the abstraction can't supply a sensible default.

Instead, I do [pdcontrol] --> [pack].

... and if I create this abstraction with no object box args, it prints:

arg-values-from-f-box: 0 0     <<--- I usually don't want this
arg-values-from-pack: 100 200  <<-- more useful

... but if you supply values, the arg list from pdcontrol overwrites defaults in [pack].

The inlet~ default thing is great! And very hard to do in Max/MSP (actually can't be done 100% reliably). Which is one place where I often tell students, "Pure Data is where Miller Puckette learned from Max's mistakes."

hjh