@willblackhurst " snaphot " never makes any sense to anybody trying to get an accurate number. because there isnt really a number to look at somehow. so whats going on between an array list - and snapshot, why doesnt it just use the array numbers? or give you exact numbers at exact times etc etc.

I heard you wouldnt need tilda then . because all you would do is read the numbers as usual. and that its because your computer was never fast enough to do it so theyve put a ramming mechanism that just shoves the array through at a constant rate.

how do they work? I dont really know.

@willblackhurst tilda is like a wave on top thats from somewhere in your computer/voltage. so it needs a matching system with the tilda voltage syncronized I guess.

so if you print it out , it doesnt make a smooth list of numbers? if youre using line tilda~
it needs to be multiplied with a tilda multiplier ~ Ive seen that I can hook a regular multiply into my volume fader line for scaling the output and then I get a slight distortion. so then I switched to multiply tilda and its better. otherwise you should do the grain number. and test different combinations .

I sorted out "hid"/object so it might work easier now I havnt seen it working before.
this was with a xbox/ looking controler. I got for 10 bucks.
https://patchstorage.com/hidi-midi-joystick-cannon-game-pd-vanilla-gem-pmpd-hid/

I made a small pmpd game pd file
https://patchstorage.com/hidi-midi-joystick-cannon-game-pd-vanilla-gem-pmpd-hid/

pmpd_cannon1.pd

if you make " f box $0 " and then check the inside of the f box youll get a number . so $0array is actually called maybe 1002array . and then you sen the data into 1002array.. but you have to check the number because it might be different it doesnt always stay the same number.

also this is how to use savestate with $0
https://patchstorage.com/savestate-plus-0-array-save-pd-vanilla/

they need their own name / per array to save the data. you could output the array as a txt file and read it back in when you open it.