this is a quick explanation of the role of abstractions in pd, and why it is useful to use $0, $1, etc.. inside these abstractions.

ok. say you want to create a very simple sample player. you'd do something like this.

[0] <-- gui bang object #1

well, there is an error in your patch, that it uses tabread4~ instead of tabplay~. but that's not the cause of the GUI issue.

yes, i think this is a bug. i have no idea why the table appears on your parent patch. hmmm.... it does not behave that way here. i wonder why it does that for you?

anyway, your patch uses a GUI array in the sample-playa abstraction, so how about if you change that to a non-GUI table?

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/sample-playa.pd

Yes, you're right about the [tabread4~]...
and your suggestion works perfect! Thanks mod

Am I crazy or is almost all of the content of this post missing? Looks like it would be very useful info, but, alas.

@jorbecke I am not qualified to opine on your mental health, but if you are referring to the hurleur links going nowhere, then it might be a Google Chrome thing. Is that what you're using? If so, try another browser. Otherwise I'd have more modest expectations of a 13 year old thread

Hi there, thanks for your reply. What I was referring to is that all I see at the top of this post is a few sentences and then the remainder of the content is missing (I'm using Firefox btw). In the first comment you can see a page where someone translated this post into Spanish and it is quite long, much longer than what I can see. Is there some non-obvious way to expand the post to see all of the missing content?

You can find information on abstractions and the dollar arguments here http://pd-tutorial.com/english/ch05.html. Go to 5.1.1.2 which is focused on abstractions.

@jorbecke right it says there is a tutorial and then there is no link or anything. and then someone says theyve put a spanish one.

@willblackhurst Yes.... it does seem to have disappeared completely.... Browser independent.... just gone.
The wayback machine might find it.
I tried to explain it here in English..... https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/9774/pure-data-noob/4
A few others also contributed and it might be worth reading the whole thread from the beginning.
David.

Thanks all for your responses and input, I will check out the links you have provided.