[pix_film]: loaded file: D:/atlas/yes/atlass-SujayMukherjee_1.mpeg with 0 frames (1920x1080) at 23.976043 fps
GLEW version 1.13.0

My pix_film is giving 0 frames why ?
and I can't play the movie please help
I am trying for a while without any result
Thanks

Yes, i remember that problem from quite a while back. Cant remember the solution though. Try playing with the auto message. Or maybe it worked with [open however/name 2( message to change backend? I came back to check when i am at my computer..

hi After reloading the puredata package and re installing the GEM library
the pix_film object is working and it is showing the no of frames height width and frame rate after unpacking it .
But saddly once I try to play the mpeg movie it wont play and the entire program hangs
what is the reason for this?
please Suggest a fix

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It might be a codec issue , best codec was motion-jpeg with Gem if I remember correctly.
Also using 1920x1080HD movie was only working with ofelia and not Gem for me...

@60hz the best desktop video codec (for frame by frame control) I found recently is .mxf with a keyframe every frame (tested with Ofelia / OF). Still have to find a well suited web codec for that (so far .mp4 works best - but could be better).

@60hz said:

motion-jpeg

hi I did download some codec version and it was working well but don't know what after I reinstalled puredata the same problem is happening again
Everything is working and the first frame of the video shows in gemwindow but the moment I try to play (toggle -auto $1) the gem window gets hanged
I have dowloaded the media player codec for windows 10 but yet things are not getting resolved
can you suggest what went wrong

@maddynakedymaddy
What is printed when you send a [loader( message to [pix_film] ?

@60hz
the console window is showing:
[pix_film]: loaded file: E:/leto.mpeg with 1579 frames (352x640) at 30.000030 fps
and also when I am unpacking the pix_film object I am getting the requisite information also
but then when I play it the gem-window immediately hangs

@60hz

pix_film]: loaded file: E:/leto.mpeg with 1579 frames (352x640) at 30.000030 fps
after loading the file
and also when I am unpacking the pix_film object I am getting the requisite information also
when I send the loader message to the pix_film it is giving no indication in the console window

@maddynakedymaddy
Others are having or have had the same issue https://github.com/umlaeute/Gem/issues/232
What is your OS?
A 64-bit Pd or are you still using Extended/Gem 0.93?
If its Widows then try the K-lite codec pack...... https://codecguide.com/download_kl.htm
..... and then run [pix_film] with the direct show (DS) backend.
(I have had one problem with the K-lite Pack....... a codec conflict in Premiere Pro..... just to let you know........ if you use that program).
If that doesn't work then try a free video conversion program and re-render the file as a de-interlaced .AVI........ something like http://www.squared5.com/ should do it.
If you want to know more about the codecs used in your .mpeg video wrapper then you can add this to your right-click windows menu........ https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

There is also a chance on a windows system that you are missing some .dll's that can be installed by installing Microsoft Visual C++ redistributables.... mscvr100.dll etc.
Google "redistributables DirectX Direct Show" but maybe just install them all for 32 and 64 bit.
David.

@whale-av
Hi thanks a lot for your kind reply
The version i am working one is the latest Pure data download 0.52-2 and in 64bit
now I did go through the downloads u recommended and after doing that I am able to play quite smoothly the videos that are in .mp4 version in puredata through auto$1.
But the .avi and .mpeg files are not playing though they are getting unpacked properly but the moment I pkay with auto $1 the programme hangs
is thr any fix to this?
another q sorry for being naive but what did you meant by (DS) backend
thanks for your kind help
Sujay

@maddynakedymaddy A last idea was adding a [pix_separatot] between [pix_film] and [pix_texture] but it probably won't help.
I am not sure how Gem is set up nowadays. It used to be that the backends were called plugins and were in a separate folder within Gem....... because most of the time people only need one or two of them to play most videos on the system....... and Gem would pass the video to each of them in turn which would throw a lot of errors to the Pd console.
So if they are still in the "Gem/plugins" folder it could still be that they are not searched for........ and some of them need to be moved into the Gem folder itself.
The directshow one is probably called something like gem_filmDS.dll and might work in windows for most formats.
David.

another q sorry for being naive but what did you meant by (DS) backend

It means DirectShow which is the native backend on Windows I guess.

This is what I asked "what is printed when you send a [loader( message to [pix_film] ?"

-> you need to send the messager "loader" to [pix_film] to know what backends are currently available on your system. It will print a list of backends with a number.

For exemple on my apple system I have :

[pix_film]: loader[0] quicktime4linux
[pix_film]: loader[1] AVF
[pix_film]: loader[2] image

You can then change the backend number using for exemple "loader 1" or "loader 2" etc...

@60hz
hi thanks for the reply and suggestion
the loader message is sending:

[pix_film]: loader[0] DirectShow
[pix_film]: loader[1] image

his is what I am getting as backend after sending the loader message to pix film.
Problem 2 :while the .mp4 are playing but the video playing on the gem window is not smooth it stutters

And ofcourse .mpeg files and .avi are not playing and freezing the programme once I press toggle connected to auto$1 message

@whale-av said:
coping the console log for our kind perusal:

GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
GEM: ver: 0.94.git v0.94
GEM: compiled on Feb 12 2019
GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version)
GEM: Chris Clepper
GEM: Cyrille Henry
GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle, Hans-Christoph Steiner, et al.
GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it:
GEM: homepage https://gem.iem.at/
GEM: bug-tracker https://bugs.gem.iem.at/
GEM: mailing-list https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/
GEM: compiled for MMX/SSE2 architecture
GEM: using SSE2 optimization
GEM: detected 4 CPUs
GEM: image loading plugins: magick SGI STB jpeg tiff
GEM: film loading plugins: DirectShow
GEM: image saving plugins: SGI STB jpeg magick tiff
GEM: model loading plugins: ASSIMP3 OBJ
GEM: video capture plugins: VIDS decklink vnc

GEM: film loading plugins: DirectShow this what I get as film loading plugins
Thanks and regards
Sujay

@maddynakedymaddy Yesterday morning I found that in fact I have the same problem........ and spent the whole day trying stuff.
No solution so far other than running a 32-bit version of Pd + Gem.
It is very strange that the bug report was closed and that there are no more complaints.
I conclude that [pix_film] is dodo-eriised for windows unless fixed or somebody compiles the QT backend.
I am sure that I will return to this from time to time, but I am unwilling to play around with codecs, graphs and filters on my system as I need it for shows.
Time to learn more about Ofelia maybe?

But on windows all the preferences are stored separately in the registry for 32 and 64 bit versions....... so you can have both running at the same time...... Extended + Gem for the video window... and the latest Vanilla for audio and control..... and pass messages between them with [netsend]+[netreceive] for control.

Interestingly I have a problem with [pix_video] too. It is resolved using the Extended View library with no backend loaded....... but still no solution for [pix_film]
David.

I also tried to read movies on a Windows10 machine, and I have the same freeze with the example movie "alea.mpeg" with Gem 0.94, k-lite codec pack and pd 0-51-4

That's why I am using ofelia, which is much more reliable when it comes to play movies (plus it have sound synchronisation).

You can try my set of abstractions if you want to be able to use ofelia like Gem https://github.com/60-hz/Ofelia-Fast-Prototyping