Hey all,
So, I am dabbling now in using messages to create dynamic patches. The system is crashing with an object that I created. The object is rather big and maybe too cumbersome. I tried it with a simpler object which does work.

Any help on what I am doing wrong?

Here is an example message:

|pd-test obj 0 0 la_loop_v02 4 61000 60000 220(

Where I have created a subpatch called test and I have created a pd object titled la_loop_v02 with four variables.

If I create the objects manually it is fine.

I can create dynamically one of the new objects, but if I try to create a second one, the system essentially freezes.

@raynovich I think it must be a problem with the contents of [la_loop_v02]
Are there any error messages in the Pd console when you create a second instance manually?
Have you used $0 in any array name and send/receive/throw~/catch~ names so as to differentiate the instances?
David.

Ah, there are a couple of error messages that I have not been fixing, I think. I need to look through them then.

Or at least think of how to do a couple of my convoluted objects. Thank you.

@whale-av Ok, looking at the object, it is not creating errors but is rather convoluted and complicated. Perhaps the message create object is not intended to create complicated objects?

UPDATE: And I tried as an experiment to copy and paste additional versions of the objects pretty quickly and that did not crash the system.

@raynovich I can try it if you upload the abstraction la_loop_v02.pd.
It is a strange problem as all that your message does is place the abstraction in the sub-patch...... it should be the same as your doing so manually.
David.

I agree. Now, the patch is a mess, truth be told. I have to get you all of the objects I have created for it. I am also a bit "embarrassed" by my way of doing things. Should I send you folder with the needed objects I create to make it work.

It has a number of objects I have created.

@raynovich Yes. Put everything in a zipped folder (a .zip file) for the upload. No need for embarrassment.
David.

@raynovich in the worst case you'll be learning things, you're in good hands with @whale-av

OK, working on getting to needed files.

Haven't sent the files yet, but working on it.

@raynovich You can also open a patch with

[;
pd open abstraction.pd /usr/local/lib/pd/doc/7.stuff/additional/pd-msg/2.msg_and_pd(

Maybe this helps?

Hello,
I have not created the mess of a library that you would have to use to see what is wrong, but I think I figured it out.

So, loadbang does not get activated when creating an object this way. Is there a way to activate loadbang when creating an object this way?

Should I not use loadbang?

@raynovich You could replace [loadbang] in your abstraction with a [receive] and send it a bang after you have created the object.
Otherwise Pd extended had [initbang] for this problem....... and I think it is now available through Deken
David.

@whale-av There is an "initbang" but that does not work.

Trying to think of other solutions. I think that is the problem though or at least it is definitely a problem.

Hey,
I can provide a patch, but I think this will produce the problem easily.

Make a simple patch and try to create an object unsig~ 50

it needs a loadbang to work, but the loadbang does not happen. If we can get that to work, then the connect would.