Is there any way to load image into the patch not using GEM?
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				How to place images into the patch? 
 
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				Try [image], but be aware it only loads .gif, .ppm or .pgm files. You can load an image directly via [image filename.gif], and you can open other images via [open filename2.gif( Take care, 
 Gilberto
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				Thank you so much. Is it also possible to resize the image? I tried [size w h( but it didn't seem to work. 
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				@cuinjune Hi, indeed it seems that [size $1 $2( is broken, and I really don't know why. 
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				As a side comment, I think that using .ppm files is the best choice. It's the only way I can get a good quality image. (.gif works too, but image quality suffers a bit). I live and love in Argentina 
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				So, you cannot open a jpeg file in anyway in Puredata? 
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				@raynovich you can open one as shown here http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/8616/jpeg-glitcher. however, I don't think you can load a jpeg directly into a Pd tk canvas. If GEM is installed you can view JPGs. http://puredata.info/downloads/gem/documentation/manual/manual/images 
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				if you have tk8.6 installed you can display png images, but you have to edit the pd-gui.tcl file. 
 in third line there should be the path to the wish shell. You just need to change it to .../wish8.6. This worked for me on Archlinux. Then i loaded the image with moonlib/image.edit: Just tried it on my Ubuntu installation and it works but you have to start pd with: 
 pasuspender --\usr\lib\pd-extended\tcl\pd-gui.tcl %FIf you run pd with "pd-extended" it still uses tcl/tk8.5. I don't know why. Can somebody explain that behavior? 
 You can check your current tcl version used by pd with hcs/tcl-version.
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				"[...] indeed it seems that [size $1 $2( is broken, and I really don't know why". It's not broken. Let me show you what I mean by a really rude explanation. You can keep visual track of the size of the selection area just by selecting everything. Have a nice day! I live and love in Argentina 
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				@LandonPD you are totally right, Landon, I found that out after posting here. And by the way, have you ever tried the new [image] object in Pd-l2Ork? It's vastly superior to the one in pd-extended. I am attempting to compile it for pd-extended and Linux 64-bit, and if I succeed I will share it here. Take care! Gilberto 
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				@gsagostinho said: "I found that out after posting here". Yes, I imagined that immediately. But I posted the wild pic all the same, so that our understanding of this popular object becomes better. Cordially, Landon I live and love in Argentina 
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				Hi, I there a way to load the GIF into a patch so that it sits under the all the workings of the patch? Like a background on the canvas? Thanks 
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				@gsagostinho said: @LandonPD you are totally right, Landon, I found that out after posting here. And by the way, have you ever tried the new [image] object in Pd-l2Ork? It's vastly superior to the one in pd-extended. I am attempting to compile it for pd-extended and Linux 64-bit, and if I succeed I will share it here. Take care! Gilberto Pd-l2ork/Purr Data have a bugfixed ggee/image that works pretty well and should handle pngs and I think jpegs, too. Both also have moonlib/image which has a more complicated interface and-- for trivial uses-- a small memory leak. Purr Data also has [draw image]which has a transform method you can use to scale the image size, and[draw sprite]to handle image sequences.
 
					 
									 
									 
									