alistair_blunt,

Thank you for your patch! It is a lovely sounding synth. I am playing my guitar through it.

I wanted to know if there is an "easy" way to change the timber of the synth tone. I am pretty unknowledgeable when it comes to synthesizing sounds in PD.

What I am looking for is to use another peddle to change the quality/timbre of the tone - perhaps from the sinusoidal tone that you have already in your patch to a more brassy/buzzy/sawtooth tone.

Additionally, one of the things I am running into with you patch is that when I am on the fundamental/bass tone, the volume is very week so I roll in some of the partials and it begins to speak more. but then as I play higher notes, the partials follow and then begin to peak. Is there any way to bump up the gain of the lower partials.

Again, thank you for your patch. I really look forward to integrating it into my rig.

best and thanks for any help,
dkeller

These are some of my most recent tunes. These are purley PD.
I'm making some sort of microtonal/Xenharmonic synth or sound generator. haha!
These 3 have drum sounds I shamelessly borrowed from OBIWANNABE he done such a noce job at programming the drum sounds. Of course I came up with my own random trigger and delay pattern though. The synth sounds are from a homemade chaos fm feedback with sample and hold thing that I call the fmbrot.
http://sites.google.com/site/pollypulsarsvisitingvertexes/justbpfmbrot.mp3
http://sites.google.com/site/pollypulsarsvisitingvertexes/phihr16.9.a.mp3

This one has some distortion in it from alindx. I had the same idea for distortion when I was in college. clipping with diodes and averaging with the original signal via opamp. you can also briefly hear my karplus strong 12 string from about 2:00 to 2:38.
http://sites.google.com/site/pollypulsarsvisitingvertexes/justbpfmbrot.2.mp3

if you go to my http://sites.google.com/site/billystiltner you can hear more of my PD stuff. Most of the recent stuff was done with the assistance of PD acting as a pitchbend microtuner into Reason. My favorite of these is PHihr16.6 that you can only find on my youtube channel at this point. If you see a song that has draw in the name then it was done using the table draw thing from PD then there's my mandelbrot tunes which were done using only PD.
Then there's this one http://sites.google.com/site/pollypulsarsvisitingvertexes/PhimenGabbaFraca.PhiHr16.7.mp3 which was done using my mandelbrot melody generator (based on Elaine Walker's Chaos Melody Maker http://ziaspace.com read her thesis it's interesting) in PD synced / or started at the same time and BPM with drums I done in Reason. I thouroughly enjoyed this one it was good to hear that old amen drumbeat after a long break from the amen. hahaha!

Well have a good day and enjoy.

Included some recording-, save- and load-routines to the log sweep deconvolution, and done a first real world test in my room. Dreadful standing waves oh boy.

Status quo patch attached.

Some weighted amplitude normalisation should be done on the sweep response. Now I have done an easy peak normalisation, but this will always lead to IR's having too low power.

Anyway, it is already possible to see the effect of the log sweep method (by the way this works with a linear sweep as well): non-linear distortion and pollution is shifted left of time zero and thus separated from the impulse response proper. Use vertical zoom to see this.

It would be useful to include an elementary wave editor for trimming. I have now done this with Audacity. Hardoff has done a wave editor in Pd, we could use a subset of it and include vertical zoom.

Katja

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/logsweepdeconv-test.pd.zip

1. My guess is it's because there is a boat load of externals included with Pd-extended, and loading them all on startup would be quite a hassle. Since there isn't really any scrutiny given to the externals added to extended, many of them have the same name, so if they're all loaded on startup and you type in [wrap], for example, you don't know if it's vanilla's [wrap] or zexy's or whatever. As it is right now, I think most people don't use externals from many of the libraries that are loaded by default, so it's kind of a waste of load time anyway. I personally don't think it would be a bad idea to not have any load by default. This would encourage people to document in their patches which libraries are being used so that when they are shared other users won't have a problem figuring out where some unidentified external came from.

2. Similar reason to the one above, I guess. I assume you mean the subfolders. You can still access them without adding them all to the path. You can use [declare] for paths and [import] for libraries. Also, you can add the folder name in the external, like [zexy/wrap], which will not only load the external but will force Pd to use zexy's and not vanilla's. Doing all that also self-documents the patch, which is another reason why I don't think it's all that bad to not load libraries on startup by default.

All that's just speculation, though. I don't actually know the real answers to your questions .

Thanks ... it is indeed. What does it do? The help file just has a patch which lists devices without explaining what it does ... How can it help me route keystrokes to PD when its not the active window ?

if it helps this is what I get when I run the patch

hidin: ** found 9 devices on your system
DEVICES: -1 None
DEVICES: 1
DEVICES: 2
DEVICES: 3
DEVICES: 4
hidin: -- could not get device #5: Access is denied.

hidin: -- can not read from mouse and keyboard
DEVICES: 5 Unsupported Device
hidin: -- could not get device #6: Access is denied.

hidin: -- can not read from mouse and keyboard
DEVICES: 6 Unsupported Device
hidin: -- could not get device #7: Access is denied.

hidin: -- can not read from mouse and keyboard
DEVICES: 7 Unsupported Device
hidin: -- could not get device #8: Access is denied.

hidin: -- can not read from mouse and keyboard
DEVICES: 8 Unsupported Device
hidin: -- could not get device #9: Access is denied.

hidin: -- can not read from mouse and keyboard
DEVICES: 9 Unsupported Device

Thanks again.

W

Nice patch shankar.

as for scales, i like just using midi notes which i convert to frequencies, and following that old pattern of "tone-tone-semitone-tone-tone-tone-semitone" i think, its something like that

integration of jazz drummer would be great.

then we'd just need jazz pianist...
and jazz singer, a patch that used those scat type samples you find on casios

then just set yourself up in a hotel lobby or restaurant.

Ive actually been working on something similar.
its just got three parts and randomly generates a 16note sequence within the one chord.
i chucked in three with the option of 3 octaves, double speed, half speed, regular speed. and ended up just chucking on a button to change the pattern, because sometimes its nice to hear the same thing twice.

i need to learn to write better synths. mine always distort lots.

maybe ill add to this to change the base note of the scale used.
and the ability to control other synths instead of mine.

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/musaiiic.zip

I want to remove them all and reinstall , but in root terminal it report me 0 files has been removed .

so I removed all the pd folder in terminal

after that I reinstalled the extended-intrepid version . but
when I run in terminal , a report shows here:

priority 98 scheduling enabled.
sh: /usr/local/bin/pd-watchdog: not found
priority 96 scheduling enabled.
sh: /usr/local/bin/pd-gui: not found

and I think that because I removed pd-0.40.2 folder which I compiled before.

and then I'm searching from google ,that the files which we compiled that should be install and removed by checkinstall.

so I downloaded the package and installed in terminal .

but checkinstall failed ..

report is here :

checkinstall 1.6.1, Copyright 2002 Felipe Eduardo Sanchez Diaz Duran
This software is released under the GNU GPL.

The package documentation directory ./doc-pak does not exist.
Should I create a default set of package docs? [y]: y

Preparing package documentation...OK

*** No known documentation files were found. The new package
*** won't include a documentation directory.

*****************************************
**** Debian package creation selected ***
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This package will be built according to these values:

0 - Maintainer: [ root@mal ]
1 - Summary: [ pd description ]
2 - Name: [ src ]
3 - Version: [ ]
4 - Release: [ 1 ]
5 - License: [ GPL ]
6 - Group: [ checkinstall ]
7 - Architecture: [ i386 ]
8 - Source location: [ src ]
9 - Alternate source location: [ ]
10 - Requires: [ ]
11 - Provides: [ src ]

Enter a number to change any of them or press ENTER to continue:

Installing with make install...

========================= Installation results ===========================
cd ../obj; cc -Wl,-export-dynamic -o ../bin/pd g_canvas.o g_graph.o g_text.o g_rtext.o g_array.o g_template.o g_io.o g_scalar.o g_traversal.o g_guiconnect.o g_readwrite.o g_editor.o g_all_guis.o g_bang.o g_hdial.o g_hslider.o g_mycanvas.o g_numbox.o g_toggle.o g_vdial.o g_vslider.o g_vumeter.o m_pd.o m_class.o m_obj.o m_atom.o m_memory.o m_binbuf.o m_conf.o m_glob.o m_sched.o s_main.o s_inter.o s_file.o s_print.o s_loader.o s_path.o s_entry.o s_audio.o s_midi.o d_ugen.o d_ctl.o d_arithmetic.o d_osc.o d_filter.o d_dac.o d_misc.o d_math.o d_fft.o d_array.o d_global.o d_delay.o d_resample.o x_arithmetic.o x_connective.o x_interface.o x_midi.o x_misc.o x_time.o x_acoustics.o x_net.o x_qlist.o x_gui.o x_list.o d_soundfile.o s_midi_oss.o s_audio_oss.o d_fft_mayer.o d_fftroutine.o \
-ldl -lm -lpthread
cc -g -O2 -DPD -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DDL_OPEN -DPA_USE_OSS -DUNIX -DUNISTD -DUSEAPI_OSS -I../portaudio/pa_common -I../portaudio/pablio -I../portmidi/pm_common -I../portmidi/pm_linux -fno-strict-aliasing -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -o ../bin/pd-watchdog s_watchdog.c
cc -g -O2 -DPD -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DDL_OPEN -DPA_USE_OSS -DUNIX -DUNISTD -DUSEAPI_OSS -I../portaudio/pa_common -I../portaudio/pablio -I../portmidi/pm_common -I../portmidi/pm_linux -fno-strict-aliasing -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -o ../bin/pdsend u_pdsend.c
cd ../extra/bonk~;make
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/bonk~'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `current'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/bonk~'
cd ../extra/choice;make
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/choice'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `current'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/choice'
cd ../extra/expr~;make
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/expr~'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `current'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/expr~'
cd ../extra/fiddle~;make
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/fiddle~'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `current'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/fiddle~'
cd ../extra/loop~;make
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/loop~'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `current'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/loop~'
cd ../extra/lrshift~;make
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/lrshift~'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `current'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/lrshift~'
cd ../extra/pique;make
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/pique'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `current'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/pique'
cd ../extra/sigmund~;make
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/sigmund~'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `current'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/extra/sigmund~'
install -d /usr/local/lib/pd/bin
install: cannot create directory `/usr/local/lib/pd': No such file or directory
make: *** [install] Error 1

**** Installation failed. Aborting package creation.

Cleaning up...OK

Bye.

root@mal:/home/mal/Documents/pd-0.40-2/src#

I dont know what to do now ....

First of all thanks for that mate!

That makes perfect sense except that when i hold down a key it doesnt send out a rapid bunch of key-downs and key ups.

It only sends out the number attached to the key object when i press the key once, and doesnt send out a stream when i old it down.

If i can make it send out a stream of key down I can make it change the slider for every keydown value and to stop moving it when it receives the key up.

So how do i change my OS so that in pd when i attach the key object it continally outputs the number of the key i am holding down?

Can somebody walk me through the preference settings
to get jack working with Pd-0.41-4 (not extended, or vanilla or anything...)
I don't get the aggregate device stuff.
I don't get the router/connection manager stuff.
Actually I just don't get it.

I am trying to reduce latency
(seems like everyone is ... or???)
I am a total beginner with Pd.
Should I try to use jack to do this.
Don't you need something like jack to adjust buffers?
I don't know how to work from the command line.
I don't really even know what a buffer is or where it lurks.
Will somebody just do it for me and I'll tell my friends how smart I am.
(kidding he he)
but really, I'm just trying to get a low latency result from miked audio to headphones. (adc~ ----- dac~).
who will walk me through this?
If you answer this, I swear, I'll have another question for you
I will be your friend!

Thanks

Jefff

Hello,
I am looking for a way to write a program that will generate a tone and then randomly choose a tone either a major or minor third above or below the initial tone. This would then repeat playing another tone a major or minor third above or below that tone, etc. I do not understand how to work pd and have no programming experience. Is it possible to do what I want to do with pd?
Bryan Killough