Hello!

I'm loving using Pd. I have made an effects processor for voice and guitar, and would like to record with it, but i don't know how to send audio from pd into cubase.

I've tried looking for a MacOS equivalent of pdvst and I can't seem to find anything.

Can someone please assist me in this? This patch has been a little pet project and i'm itching to record something with it!

Cheers,

Michael

Hi,

Unfortunately, it seems like a common problem for win/pd/jack users. I couldn't find the solution for it.
But, I had some success in using pd as vst synth/plugin in Nuendo. I believe it's not harder to make it work in your environment. More on this here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/

The only downside (from my experience) of such setup is that you actually lose pd-extended features, I think it is some kind of pd-Vanilla. That means that you will spend some time installing the externals etc.

Even latency is much lower in pdvst. I'm on winxp + rme HDSP 9652 audio interface.

I hope you'll find a way to solve your problem...

sinewave

Hmmm thats a very interesting idea with the midi. At work we have templates, a different one for each show. So one for the cop show one for the airport show etc. Because its post production though, we don't use midi. But what if I made a hidden midi track with a unique combination of notes and put it into each template... But then it still wouldn't tell you what session you were in, only what show you were on.

Such a shame that pdvst is in the graveyard, because I would have made it, then wrapped it to RTAS. Then I would have made a separate track with no output, called it "counter" and just popped the plugin onto it.

I spent some time with python today, ran through the first 6 tutorials online. I hear that Pd can execute python scripts, so I'll see where that takes me, both for this purpose and also for the general enjoyment of learning.

If only those bastards at Avid would give people the SDK to write plugins!

A couple of weeks ago, the libpd came out, which enables you to embed the pd's engine into you app. To make a VST with it, you only need VST SDK from Steinberg, and some programming skills Once you make a VST, you can check if it works via RTAS adapter, but another (better) option would be to contact one of the Digidesign-certified smaller developers, and offer them to translate your plugin to RTAS; I'm sure it can't be that much work once it's made as a VST already. libpd seems like it's here to stay, so I'd use it anyday over the (probably) abandoned PdVst. Good luck, and post back if you hack anything together! I'm still only planning

Why not try out Pd Vst and email the developer?
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/

@purewater said:

No one knows huh?

What do you expect after four hours?

Hi guys, I'm a bit uncertain and kind of frustrated at the moment, so I figured I'd post here and ask the question.

Here is another very brief post which essentially asks what I want to know.
http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-3725-pdvst-fxpansion-vst-rtas-adapter
(I'd love to know how that resolved for you Dan by the way.)

Is it possible to-

A) make a PD patch into a working VST, then

FXpansion it to RTAS for pro tools?

I've developed this patch for so long as a hobby, and this is all that stands in my way. I have to admit I have my heart a bit set on it. I can implement it as a mac app if I have to, but it wouldn't have the same functionality or elegance.

I don't care if its hard, if its doable I'll do it.

Is the pdvst up to date and functioning?

I hope to hear from anyone who knows something about this. Once again thanks guys

Fingers crossed!

It's possible to open a pd patch as a vst, but it's a very cumbersome task and not really straightforward, check pdvst here : http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/. I don't know if csound or supercollider do vst, but synthmaker is nice and affordable.

Is this possible? How is it done?

Also is pdVST still developed or is it abandoned?

Thanks for the reply boonier.

I don't doubt it would be a daunting task! My programming skills are....OK. I know Java! Regardless, I do think this would be a valuable addition to the Pd community. I imagine that if we can get the right people involved, this is a doable project.

The Supercollider framework you mention seems logical; if the plugin only opens the Pd engine, finds interactive objects (like sliders and toggles) and allows their automation, you would have something useful. In fact, Pd patches would then be usable by non-Pd users!

I'm curious about the PdVST project, hadn't heard of it, just emailed the creator for help.

@ledhed2222 said:

Hellooooo Pd-ers.

Who is this new kid Plogue Bidule and why can't Pd users run Pd as a plugin like it can?

Why can't I run my patches within a DAW and automate atoms, sliders, toggles, and bangs?

Would it be possible to get Pd to run as an Audio Unit plugin?

And finally...

Is anyone interested in helping me code such a plugin?

I don't know about you all, but I'm jealous of Bidule! Let's beat it!

Hi,

Well, can you code such a thing? because I certainly don't have the programming chops unfortunately. But I would like to see tighter integration with other software for sure. I mean there is Jack OSX and IAC bus, but if Pd was running in the same logical thread that woud be schweet.

This is currently PdVST but thats only for WIndows and i dont know how well maintained it it, but maybe its a starting point. Supercollider has an interesting way of doing it, the AU plugin its distributed with is a version of the SC server thats instantiated as a plugin but uses the interface of the externally loaded SC app to connect to it and likewise map midi and control data whatever to it. I think something like that would be good for Pd. Kind of a half way house, because Pd is really 2 apps - the GUI and the sound engine.

I have noticed a rise in the number of peple coming from MAx over to PD, and I dont doubt it has something to do with Ableton and Cycling 74 teaming up. COmmercial mergers alienate people, usually loyal customers.....I think that with the advent of Max for Live, something should be done, but I've said this before, its hard to justify saying something like that without taking action and doing it. WE don't have to pay for it so we can't expect it.

BTW - I've used Bidule quite a lot but i find the core usage of having to find the object through menus really slow and frustrating. I much prefer to type on the canvas a la PD. Also it can be an unneccesary CPU hog, because there is no apparent distinction between control rate and audio rate. But, that said it does do some things very well like handling plugins for example.

But I'm happy to help where I can for what its worth