• plusch

    @whale-av Thanks for the detailed write-up. I will refer to it as I try to think of a coherent process for managing and using externals so that the help files will open without "couldn't create" errors.

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  • plusch

    @alexandros: Ah, I misunderstood you. When you originally referred to Pd/externals, I thought "Pd" meant the folder where the Pd program was installed.

    My OS is Windows 10.

    The defaults in File > Preferences > Path are
    Pd Documents Directory: C:/Users/paul/Documents/Pd
    Externals Install Directory: C:/Users/paul/Documents/Pd/externals

    But because I was running low on space on my C drive, I had changed mine to
    Pd Documents Directory: F:/Pd_patches
    Externals Install Directory: F:/Program Files/Pd_externals

    So I think you're saying that those directories on my F drive should be acceptable. Is that correct?

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  • plusch

    Thanks, Alexandros, your recommendation worked. I removed cyclone from the Pd search path and moved the cyclone folder into the Pd/extra folder. (There is no externals folder in my Pd installation, but there is an extra folder containing things like bob~ and bonk~.) Now I can create [cyclone/avg~] (and even simply [avg~]), and its help file looks as it should, without errors.

    I had previously saved externals to a separate folder outside of the Pd installation, but I'm inferring that's not a good thing to do. So I'm in the process of moving them all into Pd/extra and removing them from the Pd search path.

    As noted elsewhere on this forum, a confusing thing is that different externals seem to have different ways to gain access to their objects. It's not clear when a declare object is needed or which flag should be used on it.

    Now I'm testing the chaos external. I can create {chaos/base3], for example, but when I open its help file, I get "couldn't create" errors. Different variations of the declare object didn't seem to help.

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  • plusch

    Forgot to mention that this is on Windows 10.

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  • plusch

    I installed Cyclone with Deken, added it to the path, and set it as a startup library. In a new patch, I can create Cyclone objects successfully. But when I right-click on an object and choose Help, I get "couldn't create" errors in the console.

    As an example, I successfully created an avg~ object. When I open its Help, I see "couldn't create" errors for cyclone/avg~, cyclone/train~ 200, four cyclone/comments, cyclone/scope~, and cyclone/setdsp~.

    Any idea why this happens?

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  • plusch

    Hi, all

    I'd like to share this piece. Its source audio was made with a generative Pd patch that I constructed.

    Paul

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