@whale-av said:

@_ish No, the GOP window cannot be set by the mouse. You have to put values into the Size and Margin boxes in its properties dialog.
When you click "apply" you will see the changes whereas if you click OK you will have to open the properties again to make further adjustments.

Welcome to the Forum...!
David.

Thank you. Figuring out whether this was a bug, or just a version difference was chief in my aim.

Thank you to everybody else for your commentaries and assistance. Very useful information.

@willblackhurst said:

you make a pd "sub-patch" object. you put object and type pd and then a space and a name.. and off click so then you are immediately inside the sub patch page. then you right click for properties. you make it yes graph-on parent. and then you move it with margin in the properties window and the size is also in the properties window. then if you go to the above page parent page and you see the object box you made except its larger according to the properties you entered on the inside page.

Not sure what you're trying to say. I know how to make subpatches, and the video I linked is creating a general use object for use in other patches.

I assumed you meant this behavior would change if done in a subpatch, but it's the same.

In short, when I right click on the canvas and select properties, and then enable graph on parent, the red box appears but cannot be moved by the mouse -- is that expected behavior? Hovering over the red box's borders doesn't allow me to relocate or change the size of the box (unlike in the video I linked).

I understand what the red box represents, and got it to work through a laborious process of trial and error as I stated in the "edit" at the bottom of my post.. but am uncertain if it's supposed to be draggable / resizeable via the mouse as evidenced in that video.

Apologies, I'm new around here (and new to PD). Unsure what information I should lead with, but suffice to say I'm using a mostly vanilla version of PD 0.56.2.

I was trying to follow along with this oscilloscope tutorial posted six years back by pd_777.

At the 3:53~ mark he goes into the Canvas properties and enables "graph on parent," which creates a red box that will constrain the visibility when the object is loaded into a later patch.

When I do this, I similarly get the red box, but cannot interact with it. I cannot adjust its position or size. It is like the box isn't there.

Is this a bug, or am I missing something?

Thank you!

p.s. I'm aware he is using "Purr Data," something that no longer seems to exist (or does it?). Still, the functionality in this tutorial all seems to still exist in the modern iteration, save the ability to interact with that red box.

Edit: I figured out a workaround; the canvas box lists "range and size" parameters, which included a size and "margins" field for X and Y. By trial and error I was able to offset the box to what I needed, but this was far less useful than what is shown in that video (click and drag to resize).