Hi!

On Mac OS X I'm using Pd 0.45.4 with a path pointing to /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra (Pd-extended 0.43.4).

I'm getting this error message on Pd 0.45.4 startup:

UNHANDLED ERROR: version conflict for package "Tk": have 8.4, need 8.5
while executing
"package require Tk 8.5"
("uplevel" body line 10)
invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $tclcode"
FAILED TO LOAD /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/search-plugin/search-plugin.tcl

I checked my Tcl/Tk version, it's 8.5.9.

Anyone experiencing the same issue?

Thanks for any help!

Martin

@whale-av said:

Is your problem the same? Yes
the search-plugin mentioned is part of extended. The kiosk-plugin I don't know?

The kiosk-plugin I don't know? <-

Which version of Pd have you installed on your Mac and where?

0.45-4-64 in users/balandinodidonato/applications

Is it "installed" where it expects to be installed. Is tcl/tk installed where the plugin could expect to find it or just downloaded to a folder? Well it is installed in the installer pre defined folder
Is it a plugin that is complaining?

I've no idea

What is your "error" message.....

UNHANDLED ERROR: version conflict for package "Tk": have 8.4, need 8.5
while executing
"package require Tk 8.5"
("uplevel" body line 10)
invoked from within
"uplevel #0 $tclcode"
FAILED TO LOAD /Library/Pd/search-plugin/search-plugin.tcl

Paths are a perennial problem for Pd....... it has fingers in many pies.

I know.....

David.

Balandino.

@balandino_dd Sorry about "kiosk" I was looking at the whole thread to understand.
Search-plugin is not part of vanilla as far as I know. How did it get into the search path? Have you imported it? Do you need it?

You could delete it. All "xyz-plugin" files are optional. They are only imported if found in the paths list. In extended it builds a list of all files in all of the search paths that can be "text" searched, and is not that useful as it drags up some hundreds of answers for a query like "osc" (every file you have ever created with an oscillator or an osc object.) and doesn't keep an index so is slow. When you first start with Pd it helps find objects, but throws up licences etc. as well. As you become more experienced you use it less and less, and then the day that you need it it throws up an un-decipherable mess of everything that you have done since you started.

You could change the line "package require Tk 8.5" at line 10 in the plugin to "package require Tk 8.4" and hope that it did not really need 8.5 (yes... not great)...... or
.......... you will need to search through http://puredata.info/ for clues about the the correct paths..... but??
David.

On Mac OS X, the Wish/Tk interpreter is contained in the Pure Data application provided.
It is bind to the 8.4 dylib.
Consequently it doesn't do nothing to have 8.5 or 8.6 somewhere if you don't change that.

cd Pd-0.46-7.app/Contents/MacOS
otool -lV Pd

...
Load command 7
          cmd LC_LOAD_DYLIB
      cmdsize 84
         name /System/Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework/Versions/8.4/Tcl (offset 24)
   time stamp 1135521461 Sun Dec 25 15:37:41 2005
      current version 8.4.0
compatibility version 8.4.0
Load command 8
          cmd LC_LOAD_DYLIB
      cmdsize 80
         name /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.4/Tk (offset 24)
   time stamp 1135521654 Sun Dec 25 15:40:54 2005
      current version 8.4.0
compatibility version 8.4.0
...

@Jojo-Lapin Do you know how to change it?

@Johnny-Mauser I did try but I get this message back from the terminal

Balandino:MacOS balandinodidonato$ cd /Volumes/Macintosh\ HD/Applications/Pd-0.46-7.app/Contents/MacOS
Balandino:MacOS balandinodidonato$ otool -lV Pd
Pd: is not an object file

@Jojo-Lapin Have I done the right thing?

Yep. And AFAIK you don't have to recompile.

Disclaimer : Must NOT work on last OS X (El Capitan).
Disclaimer : Use that (must be run sibling to the application) at your own risk.
Disclaimer : I expect you are fully understanding what you are doing.

Note that the "wish" path is set for my system (OS X 10.6).
I don't know where it is locate in the last versions.

Note that on OS X 10.6, the Tk 8.5 version is very buggy, and in that case the ActiveTCL version is a better choice.
< http://wiki.tcl.tk/1875 >
< https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk/#apple-8-5-9 >

#! /usr/bin/env bash

app="./Pd-0.46-7.app"
wish="/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app"

cp "${wish}/Contents/MacOS/Wish" "${app}/Contents/MacOS/Pd" || exit 1
cp "${wish}/Contents/version.plist" "${app}/Contents/version.plist" || exit 1

I don't really know what I did actually. I just tried to copy what you did in your previous post.
Do you mind to guide me through it?

I'm on OSX 10.11.4

Thanks for your help!

@balandino_dd

The otool blahblah was just to show the dylib command.
It doesn't matter at all in changing the Tk Framework. Forget it.

First, please make a copy of the application in its own folder to avoid the mess.
Secondly, locate the 8.5 Framework on your machine.

/System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app
/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/8.5/Resources/Wish.app

@Jojo-Lapin what do you mean by

First. Please make a copy of the Application in its own folder to avoid the mess.

is not Pd already in its own folder? Sorry for the stupid question but I do not really understand.

I mean just make a copy of the Pd application. If you change its contents it could break it.

It seems (after searching on the web) that many things changed with El Capitan.
Concerning the location of the frameworks and security signatures...
Frankly i doubt i can do it without a properly set machine in front of me (and a couple of days).

Sorry.

@Jojo-Lapin said:

s changed with El Capitan. Concerning the location of the frameworks and security signatures... Frankly i doubt i can do it without a properly set machine in front of me (and a couple of days).

AAAAAAA!!!!!! I guess that I have to swap to max in the next few days then... That's so annoying.

@balandino_dd No........ just delete the search-plugin folder. In vanilla I doubt that you even have the "help" "search" menu item available, which means that you don't have access to it anyway......
You will still have the "find" dialog for searching within patches........
David.

@Jojo-Lapin I tried your terminal commands with OSX 10.8.5, pd 0.46-7, and activeTCL 8.6.4. Unfortunatly i - ignored Disclaimer - didn't really understand what i was doing. So thats what happened:

1. There is no version.plist in the wish app so i updatet the version-nr in that plist file in pd-app by hand
2. it worked, now i can use the plugins. e.g. drag&drop (for patches), plugins plugin..
3. other things don't work anymore ore react strange. worst: right mouse click doesn't work, deken doesnt work
   maybe i try with pd-0.47, and tk 8.5 later.
   Big THANKS allready, i miss the plugins for quite a while now!

@Johnny-Mauser

"Unfortunately i - ignored Disclaimer -..."

AhAh, that's the reason why most of the times i avoid to post scripts.
People never respect the warnings.
And i am probably the first that doesn't!

ActiveTCL doesn't have any version.plist provided with, it works perfectly without.