Hi. I'm a total beginner related to Pd externals but i know a bit about Pd itself the thing is i'm trying to use the GEM plugin but still no luck.

What i've done is use the Find Externals menu and installing GEM in a folder inside Documents. Im using Windows10 btw.

Then i've set the path in [File-Preferences-Path] where i downloaded my library, then restart Pd

When i create a new File and call gemwin i got an error in the console "couldn't create"

Any hints?

Thanks!

You need to add the actual Gem folder to your path. I wrote up something if you need more details: https://puredata.info/Members/derekxkwan/pdext-to-pd/

I've just added gem to my win10 and found I needed to add -lib gem to the startup flags as well as the path to the pd-externals folder

Not sure what i'm doing wrong. When i do the slash declaration method I can create a gemwin object but the load search path doesn't work. Also i'm getting other errors when i make a [Gem/gemwin] in the console shows:

gemglutwindow
couldn't create
....and many more but that is the first so the errors start by that

@dxk I think the problems rely's in dependencies in windows maybe? i get many errors around gemglutwindow, gemlist, GLDefine GL_LINEAR, ....and many more . @Balwyn have you installed anything else?. BTW im running Pd vanilla as admin all the time. when installing Gem and when using the slash declaration. any hints?

I've found out something i just downloaded some Dlls from another site don't remember wich its called Gem 0.94-test3. The Dll's are recompiled for windows 10. Now it works. I think the best is if somebody knows how can we recompile the source explain us.

I think I've read some issues here and there about moving to Windows 10. I'm on Linux so I'm not too familiar with the build process on Win10. I think you can get GCC via MinGW for Windows. I know when I compiled on Linux I had to download a swath of dependencies, most of which were handled by "sudo apt build-dep gem"

@dxk right now i'm following this. I'll post later how it went

EDIT: no luck on compiling, in the last step making the dll's i got a pthread error related to pix libraries. . Hope there will be a new update on the library

@pepedlr I haven't found it necessary to run Pd 0.47.0 as administrator, I have windows 10 home.
When I first installed Pd 0.47.0 from "pd-0.47-0.windows-installer.exe" it created a directory called pd-externals in my user folder which is where I unpack any externals I download using deken (I do have to unpack the zip manually).
I have two paths set in preferences to that folder "C:/Users/David/pd-externals" and C:/Users/David/pd-externals/Gem.
And the following startup flags " -font-weight normal -lib gem
The Gem I downloaded was"Gem/0.93.3 (deken installable file for W32 32bit/i386)) Uploaded by zmoelnig @ 2016-05-20 22:10:28
All externals work if I prefix the folder name of the object eg [cyclone/mousestate].
Because Gem is loaded at startup I get the following in the Pd console window
GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
GEM: ver: 0.93.3
GEM: compiled: Nov 10 2011
GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version)
GEM: Chris Clepper
GEM: Cyrille Henry
GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle, Hans-Christoph Steiner, et al.
GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it:
GEM: homepage http://gem.iem.at/
GEM: bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/
GEM: mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/
GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX
GEM: using SSE2 optimization
And Gem works without prefixing the object.
I hope this may be of help

@Balwyn I've follow your steps but still nothing this is what i got in the console:

'pd-gui' connecting to 'pd' on localhost 5400 ...
------------------ done with main ----------------------
Default font: DejaVu Sans Mono
tried ./Gem.m_i386 and failed
tried ./Gem.dll and failed
tried ./Gem/Gem.m_i386 and failed
tried ./Gem/Gem.dll and failed
tried ./Gem.pd and failed
tried ./Gem.pat and failed
tried ./Gem/Gem.pd and failed
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem.dll and failed
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.dll and succeeded
C:\Users\Jose\pd-externals\Gem\Gem.dll: couldn't load
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem.pd and failed
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem.pat and failed
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.pd and failed
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.m_i386 and failed
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.dll and succeeded
C:\Users\Jose\pd-externals\Gem\Gem.dll: couldn't load
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.pd and failed
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.pat and failed
tried C:/Users/Jose/pd-externals/Gem/Gem/Gem.pd and failed
Gem: can't load library
Loading plugin: C:/Program Files (x86)/Pd/tcl/pd_deken.tcl
The Pd window filtered 26 lines
The Pd window filtered 27 lines

Maybe still a problem with Gem being 32-bit?......... but more likely a graphics card problem. Gem and many other video programs, and most PC Games rely on OpenGL. You might find out more by trawling the "Gamers" sites for OpenGL errors + win10 + your graphics card.
Microsoft pushed hard to move everyone to directX11. As I understand it the graphics chip manufacturers went along at first, but the backlash was furious and they were forced to re-write their drivers for OpenGL. You might just need a different driver. If so, the next problem would be keeping it... avoiding automatic updates.

AHHH! sorry...... just spotted that you tried 0.94-test3. Yes, that works for win7 as well, but not everything is there. You will need some other dependencies probably.... maybe msvcr110.dll or others? may-be.zip . Also it didn't work for me (at all) until I dumped the contents of the QT folder into the main 0.94-test3 folder. Also not all Gem objects are present. I started, but I didn't finish.....it is on-going.
You might need "quicktime" as well for some things to work. Is it available for win10?

David.

@whale-av , I finally stopped trying it today , My last try was building GEM with Visual Studio 2015 but it gives a lot of errors. I manually patched the files but i got to a point where it was tiresome. This is the last tutorial i followed. If someone feels in the mood of building it and teaching how to do i'll totally appreciate