sorry for my last post, i must ahve been in a strange state of mind and gave wrong info, too, now i corrected it.

to compile pd-extended, you need to foolow those instructions:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian

later, those could be helpful too:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdExtendedBuildSystem
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/

and at the end those inside: ../Pd-0.XX.X-extended/packages/linux_make/README where very usefull.

unfortunately there libdir loaders of 0.40 version won't compile,
pidip, OSCx and other externals won't compile neither, so I ended up hacking the Makefile in ../Pd-0.XX.X-extended/externals and ../Pd-0.XX.X-extended/packages.
At the end I had a succsesful installation, but as the compilation of libdir failed, all the externeals couldn't load, leaving me with a normal Pd / Gem / Pdp installation, basically. I tried to compile libdir against the former version "Pd-0.39.3-extended", and that worked. the compiled libdir.pd_linux however was not accepted by Pd-0.40.0-extended.
compiling Pd-0.39.3-extended's libdir.c against Pd-0.40.0-extended.spew out the same errors as before.
So, for me, it does not work...

I ended up again removing the whole thing and followed the intruction of myo.
(thanks myo),
followed this "howto install 32-bit .deb packages on 64-bit":
http://www.unixtutorial.org/2008/03/install-32-bit-deb-packages-on-64-bit/
and this one about how to install missing 32-bit libs using getlibs:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790

some packeges couldn't be found by apt-get, so I had to get them here:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/
by typing the missing libs in the searchfield,
downloading the i386 versions,
opening those .deb packages with "Archive Manager" and browsing to data.tar.gz/./usr/lib/
selecting all the files and extracting them to /usr/lib32/

this worked pretty good.
pidip is working,
all externals are loaded,
thanks very much!

..wow, looks beautiful, and works very nice, thanks again

OS X 10.5.2; installed from hans' most recent two builds. (in case the newest one was buggy). I have used the build you linked to unsuccessfully. I have also tried removing the org.puredata.plist file from ~/library/preferences before installing with no success.

An update - the problem occurs whenever I open any new window - even a new patch. immediately subsequently pd-extended crashes once on load.

Another thing that confuses me is that I still get a default font missing report after installing the version that now uses monaco as the default - I am guessing the same problem may be causing pd-extended to fail to reach all these.

all my engineer friends make fun of me for being confused by crash reports, but I can't get much past the "bad access" and "kern invalid address" seeming to imply that the problem is with how pd-extended relates to mac OS X not something internal to pd-extended.

I have here's what it says for the openpanel crash:

Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000000074fd008
Crashed Thread: 0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95ef3be9 _CFDoExceptionOperation + 441
1 com.apple.Foundation 0x9267a6e1 _NSRemoveAltHandler2 + 33
2 com.apple.AppKit 0x91415ac0 -[NSFocusStack unfocusView:] + 135
3 com.apple.AppKit 0x914159d1 -[NSView unlockFocus] + 117
4 com.apple.AppKit 0x9162da96 -[NSMatrix drawCellAtRow:column:] + 90
5 com.apple.AppKit 0x9158244a -[NSMatrix selectCellAtRow:column:] + 978
6 com.apple.AppKit 0x91630003 -[NSBrowser selectRow:inColumn:] + 301
7 com.apple.AppKit 0x9162273d -[NSNavBrowserDelegate reloadChildrenForNode:] + 2197
8 com.apple.AppKit 0x91621e78 -[NSNavDataSource _reloadChildrenForNode:] + 67
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x9161f6af -[NSNavDataSource _handleChildrenChanged:] + 275
10 com.apple.Foundation 0x9264fcdc _nsnote_callback + 364
11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95e5a9da __CFXNotificationPost + 362
12 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95e5acb3 _CFXNotificationPostNotification + 179
13 com.apple.Foundation 0x9267d0fc -[NSNotificationCenter postNotification:] + 124
14 com.apple.AppKit 0x9161f4be +[NSNavFBENode _postNotificationForEvent:notificationName:parent:child:fbeProperty:] + 542
15 com.apple.AppKit 0x9161f299 +[NSNavFBENode _postNotificationForEvent:notificationName:parent:child:] + 70
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x9161f24a +[NSNavFBENode _postNotificationForEvent:notificationName:parent:] + 63
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x9161e918 +[NSNavFBENode _reallyProcessNotifications:] + 700
18 com.apple.Foundation 0x926a9e0d __NSFirePerformTimer + 477
19 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95e779c2 __CFRunLoopDoObservers + 466
20 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95e78d25 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 853
21 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x95e79d18 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
22 com.tcltk.tcllibrary 0x0a077bd3 Tcl_WaitForEvent + 679
23 com.tcltk.tcllibrary 0x0a0557ea Tcl_DoOneEvent + 312
24 com.tcltk.tklibrary 0x0b011f20 Tk_MainLoop + 36
25 com.tcltk.tklibrary 0x0b01dd26 Tk_MainEx + 1513
26 org.puredata.pd.wish 0x00002acb 0x1000 + 6859
27 org.puredata.pd.wish 0x00002a7e 0x1000 + 6782
28 org.puredata.pd.wish 0x000029a5 0x1000 + 6565

Hi,

just few addresses to start (not exhaustive at all!), the first that come in my mind:

• Andy's (Obiwannabe) site: http://www.obiwannabe.co.uk (look at toys and gizmos, definitely
  a good place to look at)
• NetPD project (net-shared PD): http://www.netpd.org/NetpdPatches
• Tom Erbe's students: http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre/
• Frank Barknecht PDX7 http://footils.org/cms/show/51

... and many others

I personally started here:
http://www.puredata.org/community/patches

digging into each of the examples I could find.
You'll soon discover that "standard" synths are just a small
part of PD expression.

Good luck and keep us informed !,

Alberto

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Here's something me (Pd) and a friend of mine (guitar) made a short while ago, a meandering jam session, it all flows together without any individual tracks as such:

ClaudiusMaximus and Trel - Technology vs Guitar

Here's a screenshot of the Pd patch interface:

bigger

And here's some Gridflow visuals that I'm working on to accompany the Pd patch, all synced to the same controls, so it's all in time:

more

I'll be publishing the patches in about a week or so, at the moment they are changing too rapidly. An older version is here:
http://devel.goto10.org/listing.php?repname=puredata&path=%2Fpd-patches%2Fclaudiusmaximus%2FClearSpot%2F&rev=0&sc=0

I finally succeed installing my demudi for working with pdp/PidiP,
here my config

1. install the demudi

2. edit the /etc/apt/sources.list ,make it looks like that:

deb http://demudi.agnula.org/packages/demudi/ demudi main/updates
deb http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.os-works.com/debian/ testing main
deb http://sindominio.net/~caedes/debian/ unstable main
deb http://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://apt.cerkinfo.be/ unstable main contrib

3. run synaptic
4. search for pdp, then install

It works pretty nice, i am into search of the better compromise between quality, low cost of process codecs. For now, i have good results with AVI in in IYUV codec and the undocumented [pdp_xine] object:

1st inlet:
[open namefile.ext< open a file
[bang< print a frame
[loop 0/1< loop mode
[n< go to frame n and play
[speed n< n x the speed of the original file

2nd inlet:
? it get floats, it seems to make the video jump to the next KeyFrame... not sure.

hi all.
this is my first post in this nice forum which i recently discovered. i'd like to say hello in form of offering a track i just finished some minutes ago using my bagoftricks abstraction collection:

[url=https://www.puredata.org/Members/syntax_the_nerd/pleasehurt ]https://www.puredata.org/Members/syntax_the_nerd/pleasehurt

i know it's not really good, but maybe thats due to the fact i don't even like electro, nor listen to it usually. the drums are boring, the melodies dull, and please don't mention the bassline, but anyway, all is done in pd within about 2-3 hrs, even the sequencing (semi-live, like scheduling step-sequenced loops with keyboard commands). no samples in this one, just pure synthesis. comments welcome.

if you're interested, feel free to peek into my bagoftricks abstraction collection, offering a very compact pseudo-modular synth, a shabby physmod guitar synth, 2 1/2 drumsynths, a modular sequencer which is a pain in the ass to use, a whole bag of standard effects (from reverb to pixelator, eq to compressor),pseudo-cpu-management, some example loops, eyecandy sliders, and best of all: a (highly unfinished) tutorial. needs iemlib. no samplers here, no OSC, no nothing. just an attempt to rob all the artistic freedom from pd and push it into step-sequence sized quanta. depending on what you plan to do with it, it will need a decent cpu.

[url=https://www.puredata.org/Members/syntax_the_nerd ]https://www.puredata.org/Members/syntax_the_nerd

the track you might have downloaded earlier will be included in patch form in the next release (0.2.7) of the bagoftricks.

thank you for your patience,
stn

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Your second "c" could be the answer, if you used Pd to record instead of Audacity.

Pd has [adc~] and [writesf~], and I made a patch that splits [writesf~] output into multiple files as it is writing them: [url=http://puredata.antibling.org/index.php?action=vthread&forum=5&topic=101 ]http://puredata.antibling.org/index.php?action=vthread&forum=5&topic=1 01

The [flite] external might make your audio time stamps more human-friendly: http://www.ling.uni-potsdam.de/~moocow/projects/pd/

I made an event looper "eveloop" patch with [textfile], works like a tape loop, storing and playing back any Pd messages in a loop. The patch is complex and has a few bugs still, but it works enough for me to make interesting sounds.

Screenshot of patch that does the work (a bug in Pd ate the name labels on the canvases):
[url=http://puredata.info/Members/claudiusmaximus/copyme/gravity/screenshots/gravity-20040622-cm_g_eveloop.pd.png ]http://puredata.info/Members/claudiusmaximus/copyme/gravity/screenshot s/gravity-20040622-cm_g_eveloop.pd.png

Screenshot of patch in use:
[url=http://puredata.info/Members/claudiusmaximus/copyme/gravity/screenshots/gravity-20040622-cm_g_gravity.pd.png/ ]http://puredata.info/Members/claudiusmaximus/copyme/gravity/screenshot s/gravity-20040622-cm_g_gravity.pd.png/

Patches cm_g_eveloop*.pd are part of Copy Me - Gravity, they require IEMLIB for [prepend] and [gate]. The cm_g_gravity.pd patch also requires my DCM100 Mixtab patches, but the rest don't.
[url=http://puredata.info/Members/claudiusmaximus/copyme/gravity/source/ ]http://puredata.info/Members/claudiusmaximus/copyme/gravity/source/

Some sounds made with it - the ones after 2004-06-20 use eveloop, earlier ones just had a [metro]:
[url=http://puredata.info/Members/claudiusmaximus/copyme/gravity/sounds/ ]http://puredata.info/Members/claudiusmaximus/copyme/gravity/sounds/

Todo for the future: make a bank of 16 loops in parallel with a unified GUI, to make it easier to make music - it is hard when one loop contains all the control data for an instrument, you can't change just one controller without clearing all the others. I have a good idea how to do this, and I have time too, but I am lazy