Hi how are you, ye or y'all?

I am having a problem with a simple connection math issue.

I am trying to write a programme which would be a learning tool for the 12 times tables. 2 sliders (left and right) both numbered 1 to 12. I have a subpatch which is controlling the arithmetic.
Each number on the left is a colour, each number on the right is a progressively darker shade of that colour so that the answer is displayed numerically and visually (3x1 = light yellow, 3x12 = very dark yellow) . there's the basic premise.

MY ISSUE.
The left slider bangs the sum, the right slider needs to be moved and then banged which is annoying. The sum is at least correct.
If I wire it differently both sliders bang the sum but the answers are all wrong.
How can I wire it so each slider bangs the answer (and colour canvas) as well as giving the correct answer?

I hope this makes sense.

Thanks for your time.

Thanks again, got some great ideas on how to connect up the colours to correspond with the numbers. Weird thing is on your patch the slider bar doesn't slide but the slider does work! The wacky world of computers eh?!

i think that is because of the [metro 1] which bangs once per millisecond change that to [metro 10] and you have a bang every 10ms, or even 100ms, that should relax the GUI..
@david thanks for the cool color-patch summary

@Johnny-Mauser Hello Johnny.......
I think it's more likely a gop problem, as the slider is actually working.... just not displaying on the parent.......
http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/8226/dynamicaly-created-gop-s-frozen-until-child-opened-the-first-time
If this is happening for you as well maybe you can investigate it. I don't have the problem on my system. I wonder here if it might have something to do with the internal canvas co-ordinates in tcl, as the original patch that I added these abstractions to had scaled really abnormally on my windows system (huge fonts and the canvas "3 screens" wide).
David.

Yea, I tend to put the font at around 16 and I use a large external monitor which I tend use all of. I find it a real strain to stare at all that tiny detail on my laptop screen.
Interesting to note that it may interfere with the GUI.

Right,
I have tried frankensteining various ideas and have come up with this:
number by colours G.pd

My slider stopped moving so as a work around I plugged in a bang, so the user chooses number and hits bang. Thats fine. Left slider seemED to work well, each number having a colour.

When I tr plug in the shade patch the slider doesn't work at all
If you go into my colours subpatch you will see how I tried to incorporate the incremental shade element.
Copy and then delete everything on the right and the left slider should come back to life.

Why?

Im close to finished, The random sum generator and colour works well and Im happy with it. All I need is to get the shades working, which is nearly there but now the sliders are dead!

I just cant get it to work.

number by colours G 1.pd

Look at the left slider in all its glory

@delphineTA Hello Delphine....... that will take some investigation. Do you need the faders, or would clicking on the numbers be enough? I have posted a newer version below.... please let me know if it works.......
I know that the faders will not move if you click on the numbers alongside, but you should be able to drag the faders and they should move. Also, clicking the numbers alongside the fader should change the colour even if the fader does not move.
I have removed the metro as well as Johnny suggested.......
A last question...... what is your operating system and what version of Pd are you using?
colours6.zip
And here is your patch (number by colours G 1), corrected I think. Everything should work, and the correct answer will give green and the wrong answer red..........
delphine_g1.pd
David.

Thanks for that, I'll take a look now. I'm using a macboo pro 13" 2013 (possibly 2012), running mavericks.

Im using Pd extended.

Hope that helps.

I added the rest of the colours to the patch. Its pretty much done. One last problem.
The colour box under the 'test yourself' section is acting up. W

When you hit the bang it should give the a sum (7x12) and its corresponding colour. It doesn't right now. However if the user inputs the (7x12)themselves it does display the corresponding colour.

Odd.

Any thoughts?

D'OH! Never attached the patch!
Assignment 1 all 12 colours.pd

I thought of the multiple files open already, closed Pd, and opened JUST the one I'm working on. Still there.

It's the random button on the test part . That's all.

What I dont understand is the the learn subpatch and the test subpatch are the exact same. The learn subpatch works as supposed to.

Nah same thing.

However,
Id say over 80% of the time its only one off. For example random creates 4X6. So user goes to the sliders and puts in 4X6, gets same numerical answer but colours dont match. If user puts in 5X6 the colours match. Does that make sense?

@delphineTA Hello Delphine..... I understand now........
Fixed list.........
added order of operations [t b f] to the subpatches so that the colour is banged through properly from [random].
corrected two colour mistakes and one colour name mistake
added one to the random outputs so as not to have a zero (and to have 12!!)
changed the left slider length to 12 (from 13)
Delphine.pd
With any luck.......David

Thats the one!
Thanks so much for your help. If I could buy you a drink I would! Its was a great learning process, figuring out and understanding the differences between tweaked patches.

I can see Pd being a brilliant tool to have, there seems to be a massively steep learning curve is all.

@delphineTA You are very welcome...... and you are right that it's a brilliant tool.
Now that you have arrived at this stage it will become much easier.....
Good luck!
David.