easily my best complete song done entirely in Pd (except for 3 samples, two breakbeats and a kick sample)
http://hypercirclestudios.com/MusiC/IaNNauLT/delayten(den)cies.mp3
i had to convince a couple of people on IRC that this WAS Pd and not fruityloops
enjoy

-ian

Wicked! Good organ sound and performance or scoring throughout, I thik the release times and reverb are just so and make it flow right. The drums sound a bit far back, maybe bring them up in brightness sooner and a bit less early reflection or flange, the programming of the cutting is really nice, why hide it? I don't hear any resemblence to Fruity loops other than the pattern nature of the drums. I kinda like the way it just wigs out to noise at the end. When you say "entirely in Pd", do you mean te entire performance will play from one .pd file? If so, post up the code, don't be shy

That's really amazing... Especially the stuttering drums that kick in around 6:00 are very cool ! Are you doing this completely live?

Domien

this is all live except for a minimal amount of sequencing... specifically, the chord progression that comes in after a few seconds, the sequencing of the breakbeats (they both share the same sequencing, i just crossfade them), and the sequencing of the granulizing on the breakbeats that come in later (which i also change a bit as it goes on). i'm basically alternating between two "lead" synths, controlled via oxygen8... they're just patches using osc~ and some wavetable distortion to mix the timbre up, lowpass it, then into a reverb... what i'll do is play on one synth, then crank up the reverb feedback on it and kill the input, then play with the other one, and vice versa... this is a method i never really played around with until i got into Pd, and i only started using it because of the lack of objects i had made really! it's a good way to get a nice big background sound, like a huge pad that looms over it...
the ending of this song drives me wild... when i recorded it, i had actually intended for the ending to be the first buildup (around 7-8 minutes), but when i played that melody on top of everything, i realized i had to do it again, so i did, and i'm SO glad i did... i basically distort the beat to white noise too, it's just this huge emotional moment, the epitome of where i want to go with Pd.
obi, the drums are a bit in the back, i need to work on some better distortion methods but i did throw a kick sample in there to help out the low end of the beat... this song was composed and performed entirely in Pd, but is more of a crazy patching mess than a complete .pd file... i've only implemented save/load for my sequencer as of late, so a lot of songs up until now i had no way to save them other than a .wav and a screenshot! (i usually save the huge performance patch and take a screenshot, because when i reopen the patch all the abstractions go to default values! but i'm starting to implement save/load in most patches, so hopefully soon i'll be able to have patches you can load right up and listen to)
anyways, glad you guys enjoyed! hopefully i do some more music soon (since i've been working mostly on more sound/gem patches, not really composing at all)
cheers! -ian

patches using osc~ and some wavetable distortion to mix the timbre up, lowpass it, then into a reverb... what i'll do is play on one synth, then crank up the reverb feedback on it and kill the input, then play with the other one, and vice versa...

Additive + waveshaping, it's a damn fine "organ" sound, and like I said I think you did
a splendid job picking the reverb params for the timing, the flow is just right.

the ending of this song drives me wild... when i recorded it, i had actually intended for the ending to be the first buildup (around 7-8 minutes), but when i played that melody on top of everything, i realized i had to do it again, so i did, and i'm SO glad i did... i basically distort the beat to white noise too, it's just this huge emotional moment, the epitome of where i want to go with Pd.

<opinion> Your first plan was right, overall it's too long as a piece for the instrumentation. The buildup is very cool, and that's what I wanted to hear featured up front, the "collapse" of the rythmn track into noise. I haven't heard that device much before, amybe in some early hard trance tunes, but it really works </opinion>

i need to work on some better distortion methods but i did throw a kick sample in there to help out the low end of the beat...

Have a play with [pow~] and [wrap~], most useful for distortions

when used in conjunction with some trig functions you can take a small amount
of it, say [*~ 0.01] and add [+~ 0.25] and take the [cos~] , and mix that back in with the original signal. By changing the offset you can get odd or even harmonic distortion. Try making really fucked up waveshapers by drawing directly into tables on the fly too, that can sound awesome.

this song was composed and performed entirely in Pd,

Those are the magic words I was waiting to hear! I am so happy. Thanks for
sharing it.

but is more of a crazy patching mess than a complete .pd file..

yeah, had to abandon some of my first compositions as write only code, check out
"moon over pokesdown station" - I think there's amybe five or sxi synths in there -
anyway I wrote a page about it recently on my site under "music", comparing it
with a remix I did just recently to celebrate one year of working entirely in Pd.
I guess you develop your own ways of keeping tidy code in Pd, but it comes quickly enough with having to read your own code, like with any language. But keeping things together in one file is important imho. I sort of went through three stages in Pd, working with loads of separate patch windows with everything talking by global variables, then doing everything with abstractions, then finally with doing everything in one file. It's funny I sort of fight with Frank B about this, I think abstractions are sirens luring fresh Pders into insanity, they are powerful and trick you with their magic Now I know how to use them properly I employ them lots in more serious research and dev with Pd, but for composing music I find a single big file full of subpatches works out best. And avoiding using plugins or externs and sticking to
Miller vanilla objects means you can just pass the file around as "Pd music" to other people

**anyways, glad you guys enjoyed! hopefully i do some more music soon (since i've been working mostly on more sound/gem patches, not really composing at all) **

Nice. Well I really want to big up your tune and the fact you did it in Pd, do more soon

2slvmchn: link is broken

This link should work, cabowitz:
http://www.hypercirclestudios.com/slvmchn/delayten(den)cies.mp3

Hi ian,

finally I heard it, beautiful piece. Since it is done in pd, then (beautiful)^2
good technical realization, it sounds just "ok",
moreover I really like the C-Ab-Bb-Eb-C or C-Ab-Eb-C progression,
it just created a good tension through the piece. Congratulations... Nice distorted
sound too.

The picture would be complete if you also code the drum loop in PD
that would be top-class!

Alberto

Browsers don't like the () in the link. I had to copy it as text and paste it into the url.
Nice tune.
Bill

Beautiful work. Really liked the sound of this. Give us more

Rune

Certainly something to be very proud of! I like!!!!

I can't download it. I tried click on the link, and I also tried copy and paste all of the URL to the address bar, but either way it doesn't work.

Dude, that organ is f@rggin sick. It's sooooo syrupy. I love it!

Bumpin...

still sounds very fresh. and that organ... would you donate that? :D
have you revised it yet using pd drums so it would be totalPD?
wanna hear more...

thanks for the post.

for some reason i missed this when it was first posted. and that link didn't work for me just now, but i found a working one:

http://www.hypercirclestudios.com/slvmchn/delayten(den)cies.mp3

very enjoyable.