So, I updated pd to 54-1 but a patch I have crashes when opening. . . It does not in 51-4.

Help?

@raynovich is there a stack trace/crash log? what system is it? what is the minimum patch possible that produces the crash?
these are all good infos to get whenever you look for the culprit of a crash

Thanks. Yeah, I am looking into the problem. It seems rather odd to say the least, but I am trying to find the culprit. Does a stack trace/crash log get produced?

I am running MacOS 10.14.6. . . Is that the problem? I have not upgraded my MacOS system lately. . . .

Just thought of that.

53-2 is also crashing.

@raynovich yeah on MacOs there should be a crash log in ~/Library/Logs iirc. Easiest might be to open your Console app (in /Applications/Utilities) and find the log from there

@raynovich are you using gui externals? maybe iemgui or moonlib objects? there were some incompatibilities introduced in 0.53 that caused some of those to crash
at any rate I would try updating your externals

Ah. Yeah, I think I am using iemgui and moonlib objects. Thanks for the advice. Going to update them.

I do not update often enough to remember exactly how to do it without messing up the system. What is the best process to update externals?

So, an update: Yeah, the mknob was the culprit. I am now having to go through and fix other problems. Gosh it can be annoying to do updates.