Hi @whale-av or somebody else,

https://github.com/undessens/Lucibox/tree/master/machines/1

This Loop Machine (4 tracks) nearly perfect but there are 2 points I would like to change. The points I would like to change:

1. The stop record button. Now you need to push the record button again to finish a record. I would like to change it by pushing the record button again (track 1) OR another record track (track 2). By pushing the record track loop 2 the record loop 1 will stop and the new record on loop 2 will start.

2. The stop/play button. To stop a loop you have to wait until the loop finish. When there are multiple loops and you will stop a loop you have to wait until the whole loop finish. To play the stopping loop you have to wait the whole loop start from the beginning. So a good solution is the mute a loop when you push the stop button. The stop/play all button works perfect, I am talking about the stop/play button on a loop track.

Can you help me with this? I am very new in Pure Data so I REALLY need your help.
Thank you for any help.

@Butahuruf I learnt "on the hoof" so I don't really have any recommendations apart from http://puredata.info/docs/manuals/pd/x2.htm (but don't even look at chapter 2.9 yet.......)
That site has a lot of other interesting pages like https://puredata.info/community/pdwiki/PdInternalMessages
and especially
https://puredata.info/dev/PdMessages
and for much later on when you understand all that
https://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdFileFormat

I should also recommend myself just once....... https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/9774/pure-data-noob/4 for understanding abstractions and $ variables in particular.

After all that you will have a good understanding of what is actually happening in Pd.... and so you will be able to read other peoples patches "easily"?..... unless they are a real mess.

Dr Hernandez made a lot of good videos (search for "Pure Data Hernandez").
The Floss manuals are good (search for "Pure Data Floss" and pick your language).
There is a lot out there.........
David.

@whale-av Thank you David for the tips.
Looking forward to your solution for the looper.
Cheers Sur

@Butahuruf Finding my way around..... but still needs thorough testing....... my_mod.pd
Not so easy without touching the original patch... but could be good.
I don't think the record button should work again unless the previous sample is deleted.
David.

@whale-av Hi David, Thank you for your update but there is something different compared to the 1st version.
workflow; Loop 1 start rec > press rec Loop 2 to end the rec loop 1, the Loop 2 should start the rec immediately.... it worked on your 1st version. Sur

I think you should edit the original patch if it has too

@whale-av new bug (4)
Loop 1, loop 2, loop 3 are playing > Stop a loop (or 2 loops) > Stop All > Play (not using play all) one of the stopping loop(s) > The loop(s) won't produce sounds. After delete track(s) of that particular loop(s) can't records the new loop(s).

@whale-av
Hi David,
I look more closely at the muting loop. Your solution is to mute the loop until the end of the cycle and stop and wait at the beginning/start. So if you want to play it again, you have to wait until the other loop(s) reach the start point.

I am wondering or you can just mute it. So you don't have to wait if you want to play the loop again, right?
Sur

@Butahuruf Last point first.
You can mute loops like this..... my_mod_mute.pd
There is a lot of other rubbish in there, but it should simply mute loops......... but it should also still mute them when the play buttons are used.
Same principal....... put it in the folder and then the patch.

All day studying the logic part of the patch today.
It is built not to start recording the second loop until a whole first loop has played once, because it needs time to set and get the tempo and do a few other things and by then it has missed the start of that first repeat.
I am going to have to sleep on how to change that.

Questions.
Are you using this with the arduino hardware?
Is it important that the second loop starts recording immediately as the first stops?
David.

Thanks a lot for helping me!!!!
sorry I don't understand how to use it so I change the element's name and I got this.

"All day studying the logic part of the patch today." ....wow, man!!!

Is it important that the second loop starts recording immediately as the first stops? Yes it is ... on live gig I need to build layers quickly. Otherwise you have to wait twice for every layer.

and yes, I will use arduino as the switches

Cheers Sur

@Butahuruf Ok. I will see if it's possible to record to a temporary buffer.
Put your element names back as they were. The [my_mod_mute] module will not work with the arduino hardware so I will have to change the looper patch.
David.

@whale-av yes will do

@whale-av said:

It is built not to start recording the second loop until a whole first loop has played once, because it needs time to set and get the tempo and do a few other things and by then it has missed the start of that first repeat.

I found this

but the whole loop is so big and expensive to build. It uses a laptop, I prefer raspberry pi.
It uses this software http://sonnit.co.uk/software.html based on http://www.circularlabs.com/download2/download.html

@whale-av Hi David, do you have any update? Sur

@Butahuruf Not yet, as very little time the last few days.
I will give it another bash at the weekend.
David.

@whale-av No hurry take time. maybe you can build your own an open source PD loopers project.
This software is perfect

http://www.circularlabs.com/ is a awesome opensource loopers but it is only for mac and windows.
So maybe you should abort the lucibox. Pls let me know what you think.

Cheers Sur

@Butahuruf If you could prefer Mobius there are some images available for the RPI which include "wine".......... and so you can run Linux and a Windows emulation on the RPI and then run Mobius or run the Mobius VST within Pd in windows.
David.

@whale-av said:

wine

Thank you David. I'll try that.
Cheers Sur

@whale-av

Hi David,

How are you? The wine and Mobius wasn't a good combination. So I am back to PD again
So I need your help http://monkey-lab.net/Lucibox/machines/1/ I put the zip file as well

You helped me to add mute buttons. It works. But I need to adjust this to looper further to:

1. connect the mute buttons to arduino
2. change the overdub (recordings after the first recording loop). The lucibox waits until the first loop reaches the startpoint before starting the overdub.
   It would be great if the overdub starts without waiting the startpoint's procedure.

I hope you can help me with this. Thanks anyway

Best
Sur

@Butahuruf Did you try http://essej.net/sooperlooper/? There's also a pd UI (sooperlooper is controlled by OSC). https://github.com/goldfish/slOSC

Another looper in PD:
http://pdpatchrepo.info/patches/patch/155

Cheers

@EEight Thx! I knew those two but the Lucibox fits more to my needs. You should check it too!