first release version of a 'real' sound editor for pd.

FUNCTIONS:

open
save

play/stop/loop
zoom in/out

copy
paste
cut
crop

undo

normalize
gain
mix
delete
silence
reverse
fade in/out

much more is planned for this. but i have another project for a little while.

it should work in vanilla pd, but i just tried it on my linux machine and realized that an older computer with a low resolution monitor won't show the entire patch. version 2 will probably fix that as well. also i still haven't added record from adc~, also will be added in version 2.

also, there is no readme or instructions, but it should all be pretty straight forward.

the 2 sliders below the arrays are for left edge select and right edge select. mix,paste etc all begin at the left edge. make sure you keep the right edge select in front of the left edge, or else weird stuff might happen and pd could crash. i will add a safeguard for that in version 2 as well.

also, long vertical slider on the left hand side changes pitch. this is a handy function which i have never seen in a sound editor before.

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/soundeditor.0.0.1.pd

That's GREAT!

intuitive layout , good GUI, genuinely useful if you had no sound editor

Everything works, I loaded up a breakbeat, chopped it around with cut and paste and saved it out.

Really good work man!

hey! nice work, it's actually pretty fun to use!

Very nice.

I like the inclusion of spacebar as play as well.

Fantastic. Can't wait to find out where you take it!

Hi, I'd be interested about implementing beat markers, like the test in attachment, and then we would be able to make a slice editor as well, what do you think about this?

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/soundeditor.pd

what's in pd-datagraph.pd ? you'll need to attach that to make it work.

you need to turn sound on to make this work.
I've copied-paste a patch from chris mc cormick that makes slices with bonk~, and some F. barknecht datastructure, it needs to have DSP turned on. pd-datagraph.pd comes from some tests I didn't erased, sorry. If you wanna get pd-ableton faster, like me, let's go further...Please post the hint from roman, we have no clue in here.

I just came across this old post when doing a search for "normalize" and found it to be pretty fun to mess with (in addition to it being a great tool for editing audio files.)

I was looping sounds and then taking the out-point and sliding it back and forth. However, I did notice that if the in-point and the out-point get too close to each other (with the loop switched on) then Pd freezes up on me and I need to quit and re-open. This kinda makes sense to me because the loop probably gets too short and there may be some sort of overflow.

So I figured out how to make it so that when one point gets too close to the other (like within 0.01) it makes the other point jump back to either the beginning or the end depending on which one you are manipulating. I did this using [<] and [>] and then sending a bang.

This solved the problem of it freezing up for the most part, but I haven't been able to figure something else out... hence, my question (and I should post the modified patch here to show you but I am at work, so maybe I can post it tonight when I get home.)

Anyway, let's say I open a 3-second soundfile and start it looping. I move the slider over to change the out-point to be 1.5 seconds. Then I start dragging my in-point over to the right. How do I set it up so that when it gets to be within 0.5 seconds away from the out-point then the outpoint will slide over to the right as I continue to slide the in-point and maintain that 0.5 second window. So basically, I want to take the value from the top slider and as soon as it gets to a 0.5 second difference from the bottom slider, then the bottom slider will start moving to the right as well. If I slide the top over to 2 seconds, then the bottom slider will move over to 2.5 seconds, maintaining the 0.5 second loop window.

I don't know if that explanation will be easy to understand, but that's what I am trying to figure out. I guess it would be a matter of taking the value of the top slider and then just adding 0.5 to it and sending that to the bottom slider, but I only want it to do that once the top gets within that 0.5 difference. Oh yeah, and I also want it to go both ways, meaning if I drag the out-point over to the left it will move the in-point to maintain the same 0.5 second window.

Let's see, any other complications to throw into the mix? I think that's all. Any ideas on how to make this work?

start at the end:

>>Oh yeah, and I also want it to go both ways, meaning if I drag the out-point over to the left it will move the in-point to maintain the same 0.5 second window.<<

so you have to know which slider is being moved. easily patched in like this:

[r in-point-slider]
|
[1 (

[r out-point-slider]
|
[-1 (

so now you get a value of 1 for when then in-point slider is being moved, and a value of -1 for the out-point slider.

next, this bit:

>>I want to take the value from the top slider and as soon as it gets to a 0.5 second difference from the bottom slider, then the bottom slider will start moving to the right as well.<<

[r out-point-slider]
|
| [r in-pint-slider]
| |
| [t b f]
| / /
[- ]
|
[see next part]

ok, so now you have the difference between the value of the in-point slider and out-point slider. you now need to multiply that value by the length of the sample, to make it a value in seconds

then, you asses if that value in seconds is less than 0.5

easiest way to do that is with a [moses]

[r distance between in and out points]
|
[moses 0.5]
|
[0.5(

etc etc. hopefully you can figure it out from there?

good luck

oh yeah...forgot...

the [1 ( and [-1 ( you got at the start....

bring them back in now. so if you have moved the in-point, then the 0.5 second value is added to the outpoint.

however, if the out-point slider has been moved, then the 0.5 second value is subtracted from the in-point

it gets more complicated at the ends of the sample though, as you might need to add protection to stop the read-point going out of bounds.

so this is what i had come up with around the time of my first post. i kinda tried doing what was suggested but i didn't quite get there. i'll keep trying.

anyway, try messing around with it if you like. of course, any and all credit goes to hardoff for the original work done. i just tried screwing around with it to make it mess stuff up. basically, open a sample, turn on the loop toggle, and then press the red toggle. this randomly pitches the sample up and down as well as jumps the beginning and end points randomly. you know, because random equals cool. (joke)

anyway, you can also try dragging the beginning and end back and forth. once they get within a certain value (don't remember what value exactly) it makes the other jump backward or forward to avoid it getting stuck.

however, i am still stuck. i'll keep trying though. thanks.

crap... not letting me post.... hang on let me try again.

ok, new problem... this is what it is telling me when i try to do an attachment:

"Fatal error: Call to undefined function attach_find_extention() in /public_html/puredata/include/attach/attach_func.php on line 111"

nuts... and i am doing the preview, followed by re-selecting the file to upload. this is frustrating.

[upload test]

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/test.pd

[big file upload test]

how big is your attachement ?

it's only 56kb... i'll try it again.

here is the text... seems to be my only option.

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sorry that was way longer than i thought.

anyway if anyone is willing to put up with dealing with it, there it is.