Hey,
plz save this as a *.pd file:

#N canvas 283 218 450 300 10;
#X obj 150 162 print~ a;
#X obj 211 162 print~ b;
#X obj 110 130 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144
-1 -1;
#X obj 211 138 +~;
#X obj 150 94 osc~ 440;
#X obj 211 94 osc~ 440;
#X obj 271 94 osc~ 440;
#X connect 2 0 1 0;
#X connect 2 0 0 0;
#X connect 3 0 1 0;
#X connect 4 0 0 0;
#X connect 5 0 3 0;
#X connect 6 0 3 1;

It should show a simple patch with 3 [osc~], 1 [+~] and 2 [print~ a/b] to analyze the whole thing. Each [osc~] is the start of an audio-line/ -path!!
(The order in which you connect the [Bng]-button to the [print~]'s is unimportant since all data (from data-objects) is computed before, or rather between, each audio-cycle.)
Now to get this clear:

1. Delete & recreate the most left [osc~] "A". Hit the bang-button. Watch the console, it first should read "a: ..." then "b: ..."
2. now do the same with the second [osc~] "B" in the middle... Hit bang & watch the console: first "a: ..." then "b: ..."
3. and once more: del & recreate the third [osc~] "C" and so on. Now the console should read first "b: ..." then "a: ..." !

to "1)": the last (most recent) [osc~] created is "A", so the audio-path, lets call it "pA", is run at first. So [print~ a] is processed first, then [print~ b].

to "2)": last [osc~] is "B". Now we have an order from first (oldest) to last (most recent) [osc~] : C,A,B !!
So now fist "B" & "pB" then "A" & "pA" then "C" & "pC" is processed. But "pB" ends at the [+~], because the [+~] waits for the 2nd input ("C") until it can put out something. Since "C" still comes after "A" you again get printed first "a: ..." then "b: ..." in the console!

to "3)": last [osc~] is "C", so the order is like "A,B,C". So at first "C" & "pC" is processed, then "B" & "pB", this makes [+~] put out a signal to [print~ b]. Then "A" & "pA" is processed and the [print~ a] as well. -> first "b: ..." then "a: ..."

This works for "cables" too. Just connect one single [osc~ ] to both (or more) [print~]'s. Hit bang and watch the console, then change the order you connect the [osc~] to the [print~]'s..

That's why the example works if you just recreate the 1st object in an audio-path to make it being processed at first. And that's why I'd like to have some numbers (according to the order of creation) at the objects and cables to determine the order of processing.
But anyways, I hope this helps.
And plz comment if there is something wrong.

Here is some more info:

This is development info of VisualTracker for pd (pre alpha 100404)

What is it:

VisualTracker is sample sequencer – it triggers loaded samples in times defined in time line in editor window. Samples can be played in their default speed / length or can be fitted in tempo. In “fit mode” you can define number of bars to fit in and also multiplication of file. All changes have visual interpretation in sample canvases.

VisualTracker for pd (pre alpha 100404) was developed in Pd version 0.41.4-extended, on Windows XP

How to make it work:

1. Open VisualTracker_(pre_alpha_100404).pd in pd.
2. Editor and Samples window are automatically opened.
3. Preset currentstate.vtp is automatically loaded – this preset is saved before closing the patch.
4. After first run there are 3 empty sample boxes in samples window and 3 corresponding sample canvases in editor window.
5. Load any wav (44100 Hz) by pressing „load“ in selected sample box. No space characters in path or filename are allowed. Loading of these files is aborted and error message appears for several seconds. Name of the successfully loaded sample including full path appears in sample box and also sample canvas in editor window. Size of sample canvas is changed according to the sample length. Try to change global BPM – size of sample canvas is recalculated.
6. Check „fit“ to fit sample in current BPM. Set length of sample in bars and multiplication.
7. Add another sample by creating object [sample] or just copy existing sample box in samples window.
8. Switch to editor window, press CTRL+E to switch to pd edit mode and drag and drop sample canvases to desired position on time line. Sample canvases are automatically snapping to bar columns and rows.
9. Switch back to normal mode by CTRL+E
10. Press PLAY to replay your sample composition. Samples are played only if corresponding sample canvas is placed in track 1-6. If sample canvas is above the tracks sound is muted.
11. Press „save“ in main VisualTracker window to save current preset to a text file. Any name and extension with no spaces is allowed.
12. Before closing VisualTracker press „save state & close“. It saves current state to preset named currentstate.vtp and delete all sample boxes from samples window and all sample canvases from editor window. Now you can turn off and eventually save VisualTracker patch. This is important to avoid double appearance of sample canvases because information about samples and composition is stored independently from pd patch and should not be saved inside patch. If there are still some „orphaned“ sample canvases hanging delete them manually.

Components:

1. Sample window: place for unlimited amount of [sample] abstractions. Once abstraction is created (by copying or creating the object) corresponding sample canvas is created in editor window. [sample] abstraction is sending data to sample canvas (name, color, size, snapping) and receiving back position. Triggering of sample playback is based on position of sample canvas.
2. Editor window: place for sample canvases composition on the top of timeline grid. Sample canvases can be moved by mouse in pd edit mode (CTRL+E). Timeline grid will be extended and improved in next versions.
3. Preset save/load: saves and loads presets to/from a text file using [coll] object. Preset contains global values (number of samples in composition, bpm) and local values for each sample box (filename, position, track, multiplication, number of bars, fit switch, color and two unused values).
4. Sequencer: located in program subpatch. Very simple - functionality will be extended and improved in next versions
5. Other: located in program subpatch. Contains some other patches as colortable, BPM manager, output etc.

if it's only manual deletion you are after, you might be able to hack a way around.

If you create a subpatch (with GOP enabled) and a system that receives a call, and performs an action upon call

[r canvas-check]
|
[t b]
|
[print canvas-bang]

GOP, so that you can create it to become exactly the same size of the canvas and hide that behind the canvas, you can make a call to [r canvas-check] and according to the number of bangs printed, you know how many canvases are still hanging around. You know this, because to manually delete a canvas, you'd have to highlight the canvas with the mouse (which would also select (and eventually delete) your subpatch that you hid behind it), when you get rid of the canvas, you also delete your system that checks upon its own presence!

Hello everybody, I´ve been programing in PD for a year now, I programend in MAX/MSP for 5 years and I made a Spectral Cross Over with pfft~, however, I have been trying to port this patch to PD, the problem is that the fft~ object in PD does not have the third outlet that gives me the bin number activity as in Max/MSP.

Is there anyway to find out when a bin has a"activity" in it?
This is what I´ve made so far.

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-1;
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#X obj 57 146 loadbang;
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#X text 40 27 The Hann window is now recomputed on 'loadbang' to make
the file smaller (it doesn't have to be saved with the array.);
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#X connect 14 0 15 0;
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1;
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#X obj -230 -394 / 1024;
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1;
#X obj 32 107 inlet~;
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1 1;
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#X obj -364 -338 /~ 256;
#X obj -119 -83 > 0.1;
#X obj -289 -83 >= 0.05;
#X connect 0 0 21 0;
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#X connect 7 0 37 0;
#X connect 9 0 15 0;
#X connect 9 1 15 1;
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#X connect 13 0 10 1;
#X connect 15 0 35 0;
#X connect 16 0 19 0;
#X connect 17 0 16 0;
#X connect 18 0 7 0;
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#X connect 23 0 26 0;
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#X connect 35 0 20 0;
#X connect 36 0 34 0;
#X connect 37 0 33 0;
#X restore -469 -224 pd Xover;
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0 1;
#X obj -424 -189 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1
0 1;
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#X connect 9 0 4 0;
#X connect 10 0 11 0;
#X connect 10 1 12 0;
#X connect 13 0 10 1;
#X connect 14 0 10 2;
#X connect 16 0 4 0;
.

here is the text... seems to be my only option.

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Hi all,

This should be the easiest thing in the world, but I cant for the life of me figure it out.

I need to populate an array with input from four different number streams were the order of appearence of numbers in the stream puts them into an queue to bang messages from 0,1,2 etc.

A brief explanation

I presume is pretty
easy when you know how, but A brief explanation of the project might be in order

The idea is to back project onto a series of screens and give people
IR LED "paintbrushes" so they can paint with procedural graphics and
sound.

We're using "touchlib" blob tracking software (and webcams)to
differentiate between the blobs. the software assigns each blob a
numbered ID for the length of its lifetime, based on the order in
which they come into existence : so the first blob in existence is "ID
0" (until it dies, when it takes its pace in the queue), the second
is "ID 1" etc.

These IDs allow us to assign specific graphics to different blobs in
Processing, and also to give each an individual piece of audio.

Its easy with just one machine sending these messages as each ID
corresponds nicely to the order of tracks to be triggered in the
sequencer,
but we're using four separate modular machines each running touchlib
and we want the sound to be global.

We have networked the machines and each of the four graphics modules
can talk to the machine running the sound. The sound module is running
PD which receives messages from the other machines and then sends MIDI
messages to the sequencer. So PD is getting four streams of numbers -say from zero to three- which correspond to the order in which touchlib blob IDs pop into existence - (each stream local to its own machine)

these numbers trigger a fade in/out of a
mixer track in say for example Reason). Ideally the first person who enters the space will
trigger some pad sounds (fader 1 in reason say) regardless of which
screen they paint on.

that way it will work if there is only one person in the space. The
next person would trigger some percussion, and the full track would
build naturally. The alternative is to have every ID locked to a
sound, meaning it would really only work for four people in the space.

So to the question. There are 4 data streams coming into PD, literally
numbers 0 - 3 in each number box. as you can see in the
"four_machine_dilemma"patch attached.

what I need to do is fix it so that if (and only if) computer A has
sent a message triggering track 1 that computer B, or the next stream,
when it sends its own "ID number 1" is converted to ID number 2 , that
is, it occupies the next position in the global array, triggering
track two (because track 1 is occupied) even though it thinks it is
"ID number 1", and so on down the chain.

is there some way to store a boolean for the track's on state and use
it to reassign a value to the next incoming message?

Or just to fill positions in an array with the incoming messages in
the order they are received. It seems like it it should be
straight-forward but I'll be buggered blind if I can figure it out.

Hope this is not to long winded for a simple question.

Thanks in advance,

wadeorz

Is it possible to change the layer or order a canvas appears in the PD environment?
In graphic software this might be referred to as 'send to back', 'send to front' etc, or the idea of layers.

I want to use different coloured canvases to section off different areas of the patch that do different things, so its easier to see.

I've written most of the patch already, but if I create a new canvas, it appears infront of objects and behind connectors, which is very strange.

I can only get objects to appear ontop of the canvas if I insert them after the canvas has been drawn. This, of course, would mean I would have to re-insert ALL the objects, and theres lots.

I have considered separating different parts of the patch into subpatches, but a) I have a large screen and like to see the big picture and I will be exhibiting the patch in operation so it would be nice for poeple to see the whole thing. Indeed, I have used subpatches for small elements of the overall patch, but not just to organise how it looks.

Apologies if this has been asked before, I searched and couldnt find anything.

Hi.

I am having trouble with getting pix_data to scan though the image values of the picture.
I am open for suggestions if there is another way to do this.

Can anyone help me?

mvh.

evemgr

here`s my code

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sunji - i did some experimenting and poking around the Pd source code and figured out what messages you can send to a canvas object. here is the list:

dialog -- not quite sure how to use this one or what exactly it does
size <number> -- determines the selectable size of the canvas
delta <x> <y> -- moves the position of the canvas relatively by x horizontally and y vertically
pos <x> <y> -- set x and y position of the canvas
vis_size <x> <y> -- set the width (x) and height (y) of the canvas
color <number> -- set the color
send <name> -- set the send name of the canvas
receive <name> -- set the receive name
label <name> -- set the label
label_pos <x> <y> -- set the x_off and y_off properties for the label
label_font <font> -- set the label font
get_pos -- returns the x and y position of the canvas to the canvas send name

i think that's all of them. i'll post if i find any more

--zac