I'd like to be able to use python scripts in pd externals -- without ending up in some roundy-round like running the python interpreter in csoundapi~ or like that -- but everything I find on the subject to date leaves me in confused frustration or frustrated confusion... whichever it is.

The Lua interface works. But having to learn a new language that seems to lack many of python's conveniences... not so good.

What's the current situation? How come there doesn't seem to be a standard external for importing python? -- Just a preference for C among the real gung-ho technical folks, or does lua have charms that elude me?

http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/py/

these can be tricky to get running though

"these can be tricky to get running though"
Arrrrrrgh!

Anyway, my chips haven't all fallen out yet so I will continue to follow your link, thanks!

So, I've got something installed on my system that recognizes when I put an object called a [py] onto a patch. It wants a script to load before it will create that object, but probably I'll be able to do that...

A [pyext] on another hand... produces a simple 'couldn't create' message.

I don't think I was able to find or download one in the first place -- Where, please?

Or would py.pd_linux be sufficient for creating a [pyext] if I just gave it a script?

"These can be tricky to get running," yes!

judging by this thread http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-9349-python-script-external you might need to put an [import py] object

Still getting:
/home/forrest/Downloads/py.pd_linux: libpython2.5.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I was able to put in an [import py] (though for some reason my ability to create 'bang's went away temporarily) but there doesn't seem to be anyplace I can put 'script.py' and have it recognized.

Gonna take another look at 'writing pd externals in C'

Thanks for the effort -- & it looks like Mr. Grill put a lot of good effort into the coding, but doesn't understand how confusing his system can be to anyone who didn't design it themselves....?

Thanks... If I find out anything that works for me I'll be back to be helpful (I think).

Wow! The instructions in the pd help-browser for '6.externs' are simple and they work! [in C. Python usage in pd is still a jungle!!!]

I'd initially found the article on writing pd externals in C utterly befuddling... the sheer mass of things you should do and the ways you might do it, etc -- plus the lack of instructions on how to install an extension once you'd written one -- but the examples in the pd-extended distribution anchor all that mentally in what I think is going to be a usable way...

My first confuser-language was Fortran; we'd take shoeboxes full of punch cards to the desk in the evening and get a printout full of error messages in the morning.... real stone age stuff. Everything since then that's supposed to make things simpler... hmmm!!! But for anyone wanting to explain technical matters to people who don't already know it, I've gotta emphasize: "Examples, good!!!"