here is a patch that maybe from the pd example libary, it's name is

move_pd_window.pd

it can let us move pd console window buy moving a dot in a grid object.

that is so funny that make me wanna trying to move other windows by this patch,

but how ... ?

and the patch is attached.

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/move_pd_window.pd

You need to find the "window_name". I've added it to the attached patch.

Attachments still not working for me, here you go via sendspace:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/aixq9h

Thanx very much I ll visit ur link. Yesterday I'm trying to move the gem -rendering win but i earned failure I guess it must be the path or the window name problem..

Maybe try to look for the name of Gem or gemwin?
If not you could give wmangle a go http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/wmangle

pd fro window works very well

i just changed the fro's new name by bang [window_name] to the symbol

different computer may set a new window name here.

i ll try gemwin later ,

thanx a lot @lead