SSSAD save module

enrico

SSSAD it's a nice way for collecting presets.
I think this is an important correction of sssad save module to post.
I use patches with a sssad module for each abstraction (many).
In the main project window I create a subpatch where to collect several sssad messages (messages created inside "pd datastore"), during a performance I can load many presets.

Sometimes is useful to change only certain settings and leave others unchanged, thus I write sssad messages with only the commands I need.
The "sssad.pd" I propose you, doesn't send messages when there's no relevant command to perform for his "parent".

I was said I should post this in the pd-list, but I feel it dispersive

ps: [sssad] was written by Frank Barknecht <fbar@footils.org> and was inspired from
a discussion about Max's [pv] and [pvar] objects on pd-list brought up by "Item
State"

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/sssad.pd

enrico

I cannot answer this if I haven't a full working Memento, anyway as far as I can see, Memento is oriented to store several presets and quickly switch among them.
The same is possible with SSSAD as well.

You can store several presets by creating a number of subpatches named as you wish (e.g. pd preset1, pd preset2, ...). Then, when you want to save the "preset1" state, you have simply to apply this argument on the "datastore" abstraction and press "save" button.

Once you have saved your presets, send bangs to the messages stored inside subpatch preset1, preset2, ... in order to switch among different presets.

I cannot say more about Memento but I think I will continue to use SSSAD.

Bye

E

hu_koala

i like the fact i don't need any external to store preset :love:

great job Enrico, could you post a very basic example how to use your abstraction ,please ;o)

HK

ps : i know i'm lazy but thanx in advance

myoozik

Wow. There is a lot of powerful stuff I don't understand yet about Pd. It would be really helpful if there was somewhere I could read up on

, stuff relating to templates, atoms, and dynamic object creation.

hardoff

lists:

help->reference->list-abs

dynamic object creation:

help->manuals->pd-msg

myoozik

I'm not finding the pd-msg.

hardoff

you have pd-xtended?

myoozik

Nope. What package should I use?

hardoff

google search 'hans pd installers', and get 0.39 extended

enrico

ok guys,
as I said before I created a new version of example-preset patch where you can see the method I use to create and load several different presets using s-abstractions.

the new version is a step by step tutorial patch where learn to use sssad save module and create different presets

please give me some feedback,
have fun

E.

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/example-preset.zip

arif

Well, thanks for producing a tutorial on this. I'm googling around but can't now even find the 'original' version of SSSAD.

The problem with your tutorial is that it only explains how to create a preset for one control item. then you root around what seems like so many (seemingly) unrelated pd patches. and you load up start-here.pd to find that the code for it's version of preset handling is different and it loads and saves to file, which wasn't explained in your tutorial, so after further digging, I'm none the wiser, and I still wouldn't know what pd patches exactly I need to copy over to new projects in order to have this feature

enrico

here I found s-abstractions which use sssad module

http://mccormick.cx/projects/s-abstractions/

links for download seems not work to me, (post a mail to Chris if you want)

so I attach the s-abstractions.tar.gz file I downloaded in 2007 (don't know about updates)

here I learned to use sssad and if I did, you can do the same and better

then,

if you want to save and load (<- much important) presets only for a selection of parameters you have
if you want create multiple presets

read my tutorial and try to use my version of s-abstraction, which is the same to the original except for one or two patches

hope you will be a fan of s-abstraction or simply the wiser

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/s-abstractions.tar.gz

gab_lecup

hello there,

new to this forum and to pd~, i just submited a post in the "technical issue" forum about getting lost in saving presets, sssad, RRAD, datastore, qlists, etc, and it seems you guys here know a lot about it ...
i threw a quick look on enrico's tutorial for SSSAD, but it seems way past my present knowledge. could you tell me where i could start my research to understand all this (is sssad an external object? a way of organising abstractions?)? i like to understand my patches, so i guess i got a long way to go, but it would really help....
thanks,
sorry to mingle with the big guys, i just don't know where to start

boonier

i just answered your post in the technical section

cheeers

mrpropre

Hi, I use sssad a lot and I find it very useful.

But when I use many save modules on my program, some of them suddenly stop working and I can find this line in my .txt files:

\\\\\\\$1/kill.SSAD/kill;

Is there any kind of limitation in the number of presets that can be saved in one file?
I have 135 lines...

thanks!

gab_lecup

hi,

so stubborn i still don't use ssad, but have my own centralised preset saving system using arrays (so you can save .txt or not). from what i've gathered there shouldn't be a limit to the number of lines though...
if my "alternative" system might interest you let me know and i'll post an example in a machine.

mrpropre

Hello gab_lecup

Yes, I would be happy to see your alternative to SSSAD...can you post it here?

Thanks!

gab_lecup

hey,

not really an alternative, never tried sssad in fact. just a preset saving system based on panel saving (got the idea from this forum, boonier i think) which works out for the moment.

here posted an example. save a new patch in the same download folder and create an object "mud xxx", where xxx is the unit's name.

feedback would be great. is sssad much easier to build?

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/mud.pd