Intercept APC40 MIDI
Hi,
Does anyone know how I'd intercept the APC40 MIDI so I can start to make changes to it.
I've tried using a virtual MIDI cable, feeding the MIDI into PD, then into the cable: and recieving MIDI back from the cable and sending it to the APC40, but:
1: This causes a weird feedback issue: when I turn a knob Ableton gets updated and immediately sends a MIDI response, which PD sends back to the APC40. This causes slow knob response and flickering: it looks like the APC40 is getting confused by the returning MIDI signals.
The same thing does not happen when the APC40 and Ableton are connected together directly: even though there is two-way MIDI. Obviously the issue is solved somehow: but I don't know how to do it.
2: A lot of the APC functions simply doesn't work: although I've simply done midiin --> midiout with all the available MIDI interfaces. The handshake between the APC and Ableton supposedly goes through MIDI, and other people have got it working with Bome's MIDI Translator: so it's definitely possible. Any ideas on how to get it working?
Cheers,
Will.
Rumble Box
should become a kind of groove box but i guess i tinkered it to f**k. it's a damn cpu hog and it will spit out a whole list of errors to the pd window when loading.........
....BUT BESIDES ALL THAT: it sound pretty nice (in my opinon!) ....
so, if you give it a chance, tell me what you think about it.
EDIT: Note, when you open the patch (RUMBLE_BOX.pd) there will be no sound until you assigned midi in and midi out.
the sequencer sends out midi notes to the single sound generator channels, so you have to send midi out to midi in - i did this with midi ox and midi yoke, i connected "midi yoke in 1" to "midi yoke out 1" in midi ox and assigned them as midi in/out in pd.
Can't run PD 0.42-4 under OSX 10.4.11
I'm getting a similar problem on 10.5.7. I'm also getting crashes when trying to select my M-Box Micro as the output in Pd..
Process: mds [21]
Path: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Support/mds
Identifier: mds
Version: (???)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [1]
Date/Time: 2008-09-23 14:48:39.862 +1000
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.4 (9E17)
Report Version: 6
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
Crashed Thread: 18
Application Specific Information:
/SourceCache/Spotlight/Spotlight-398.18/index/ContentIndex/CIMerging.c:1958: failed assertion 'changes->docIds[0].count==0'
(Error) IndexStore in SIStoreDirytySDBChunks:Error storing dirty sdb pages: 30
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Thread 16:
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Thread 17:
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Thread 18 Crashed:
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2 com.apple.spotlight.index 0x00230a00 PayloadProcessDocIDRangeBitsReversed + 387
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5 com.apple.spotlight.index 0x001a0da6 _ContentIndexMergeIndexes + 128
6 com.apple.spotlight.index 0x001a0fe2 ContentIndexMergeIndexes + 248
7 com.apple.spotlight.index 0x0017ec59 OuterMerge + 1310
8 com.apple.spotlight.index 0x001806fe si_mergeIndex + 4007
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Thread 18 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x00230733 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x00000000
edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x00000616 ebp: 0xb0991738 esp: 0xb0991730
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010286 eip: 0x002370af cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x00000000
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Separate control of two midi devices
>>I had been hooking the sampler up to the midi out from the x-station<<
does the x-station have a midi 'thru' port too? or just in and out? because if you want to send midi to the sampler via another device, you'd probably have to have a midi thru port to do that (if i recall correctly)
if you don't have a midi through port, then i think it would be best to use the midi-usb device you have.
set the electribe to receive on midi channel 1 only. and then attach it to the the midi-usb device with a midi cable.
connect the x-station to the electribe's midi 'thru' outlet with a midi cable. set the x-station to recieve on midi channel 2 only.
then open pd and set midi output to the midi-usb device name, and then [noteout 1] should talk to the electribe only, and [noteout 2] should talk to the x-session
one more thing:
does the x-station have its own power source? if so, then disconnect the usb cable. you won't need it. but if the device needs usb for power, then maybe you can still leave it connected via usb as well, but don't select it as a device in pd, because it will be receiving midi messages via the electribe anyway.
one more thing again: really if the x-station has a midi through port, then just attach that to the electribe and all your worries should be gone.
MIDI feedback
Hello,
I have a problem with using pd and MIDI yoke.
The thing is that I am sending MIDI information from reaktor through MIDI yoke to pd.
For a while everything goes fine after a few seconds things go wrong.
I am using different midi-controllers and it seems that after a while information from the different controllers get "messed-up".
I am sending MIDI through port 1 of MIDI Yoke and receiving from the same port in pd. This is the only port that I am using.
Now I found out (by opening pd in DOS) that I get a MIDI feedback, but I don't understand why...
Also when I set-up the midi port I get the message that using MIDI in windows is dangerous:
Warning: midi input is dangerous in Microsoft Windows\; see Pd manual).
Can somebody help me pleezze.
Cant get midi signals from Ground Control Pro to Puredata
Hello everyone,
I just purchased a Ground Control Pro, a midi foot pedal, from DMC. I was hoping to use it to switch between my patches in Puredata. However when I plug it in, using the factory settings=>to my Uno midi interface=>powerbook g4. I don't get any midi signals in the Test Patch in PD. I have selected the midi interface in the PD midi settings, I have also created a external in Audio|Midi OSX utility. If I switch out the GCP with my midi keyboard, PD gets the signals fine.
I am getting midi signals to the Audio/midi OSX utility because when I do a sound test in the utility i get sound response on the "\/" arrow of the midi interface(the one viewable in the patchable section of the utility)
If anyone has had any experience with the GCpro and setting it up with PD I would much apreciate some direction.
Just for you knowledge, I have tried this setup with the OSX midi utility open while PD was open(I heard that I should try that)....no luck.
Ben
Latency with midi
I'm looking for some help about a latency problem with midi processing using pd under Windows XP.
Here is the point : I'm using pd to process some midi data coming from electronic drums. These data are then sent to another software (e.g. Nuendo) thanks to virtual midi ports (MIDI Yoke). Assuming '<->' is a midi connection (virtual or physical), it looks like,
drums module <-> Sound Card (Midi Ports) <-> Pure Data <-> Midi Yoke <-> Nuendo
The problem is that pd introduces some latency... and pd is definitely responsible for that... because the following setup does not introduce latency :
drums module <-> Sound Card (Midi Ports) <-> Midi CC <-> Midi Yoke <-> Nuendo
(Midi CC allows to connect virtual ports between them)
The last point is that latency does not seem to be sensitive to the patch. I tried a simple midi thru patch and another patch with complex treatments and nothing changed...
Help