@rjp9 ah perfect thanks man! at some point i need to get my head round adsrs but i like this quick way of adding envelopes

vline clicks.pd
Encountering a problem with lots of patches i'm trying to make where line~ and vline~ objects create the effect I want but add unwanted clicks at the start of transients, been reading about different line objects and haven't yet found the solution to this problem, can anyone help?