Whenever I do something that is not quite right, PD extended for Mac likes to just freeze and then at some-point close without any crash report, though generally I just force quit. Nevermind if you have a patch that isn't saved, it makes no crash save or anything, seriously I am quite sick of this software. It might be free but does it have to be so badly tested.

Most software lately seems to fall into ever increasing cycles of badly tested annoyance for the user.... I have only been using PureDate for about 2 months, and as much as it entices it is equally repelling me from it's glitched up workings... it's poor structuring and over complicating of simple tasks is not so bad when you get used to it, but the rest is really beginning to put me off it completely.

Now someone please tell me I am wrong!? ;p

haha, lol... well I expected a response like Arif's pretty much word for word, some what predictable... and besides which if no-one ever lets off steam and says how they see it from time to time then no-one takes note, you become lost in the sea of more agreeable comments, and I also think it's the sort of thing developers might actually find useful, it's called feedback (though noted "direct to the developers" is probably best). I recall last time I read this that Arif also said something about the software developers being offended by my comments, not sure what happened to that part of your comment... I think they should care little about the momentary episodic fury of a newbie PD programmer, they're clearly bigger than that!

Thanks for all considered comments btw, better late than never (my thanks I mean).... I do find PD very prone to freezing up though in general, and used it on many different computers in and out of University. It's my liking of it that fuels the frustration when you are held back from the creative process by glitches, creative states are so killed by hiccups. It's one of the main problems with trying to work on both sides of the process, technical and creative, the two flow so much better when they are separate....

As for "video causing the problem", maybe it was, I forget what I was working on at the time now... I am trying to get my head into Supercollider a bit more at the moment but also using MAX/MSP a little. I'll be sure to be more positively productive in my posting when I return to PD

indeed, now it works... thanks

I have a similar problem:

error: delay: no method for 'clear'

The small patch is taken directly from http://www.pd-tutorial.com/english/ch02s02.html, that is suppose to be a tutorial so I assume it should be right.

However sending a clear via a message box into a (del 5000) object results in this repsonse. The clear is suppose to clear the bang that has been sent to the (del 5000) object box before the delay period has expired/operated. Yet PD doesn't seem to understand this and returns the above error message.

Any ideas?