I need to get one sound (white noise) to play for 5sec then stop but then instantly trigger a second sound to be played for 5 sec then stop.

Any help will be much appreciated

This should point you in the right direction

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/pdex1.png

This should point you in the right direction

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/pdex1.png

Thanks for that Saturno!

I've more or less solved the problem of getting the bangs to fire with the correct time intervals but I cannot work out how to get the sound to (ie white noise) to start with a bang and stop with a bang...........any ideas?

aha its ok a toggle going into the cold inlet of the *~ thats in-between the noise~ and the dac~ seems to solve it

you got it