Hi all,

Just discovered puredata (and dataflow programs) thanks to my building a Monome...

I installed pd-ext-0.39.3 on my mac os10.3.9, it worked out-of-the-box.
I installed pd-ext-0.39.3 on my winOS, it also worked out-of-the-box.

I then tried to install it on my Ubuntu Dapper, and finally on my 64studio(64bits version), with no luck.
I must say that i'm quite a noob. I only compiled a few programs and some kernels (for realtime preemption).

I see there is no amd64 .deb package (as i want to have pd on my 64studio running), so i tried to get the source and compile it myself:
When i type "./configure" in the "pd/src" directory, stdout tells me there isn't any file named "configure".
There is a file called "configure.in" but when i type"./configure.in" it throws me other errors out...

Dunno what to do, since the INSTALL.txt doesn't seem to correspond to the source i downloaded.

I couldn't find any good tutorial on how to compile pd-extended on amd64 either.

I must be missin' something
Anyone here got an idea?

Thanks ahead

Gwen

nope
but the 32bit version should be able to run too
so maybe try out the .deb anyway

i'll try that one...

thanks for the (so) quick reply!!

I tried it, it holds me back telling that it's not the corresponding architecture...

I think i have to compile it myself.
Any help on how to do this?

Hi again,

Anyone could tell me where i can find actual compiling instructions for Pd-ext on a amd64 ?
Thought this would be the right place to ask .

Anyway thanks to all the devs for this incredible piece of software!!

hey guys,

compiling on amd64 is still quite the trick right now. I have managed an attempt using these infos:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian/?searchterm=debian
http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg13552.html

but I have not been really succesful yet..

the trouble is that many of the externals are not very 64bit friendly yet. the core pd-vanilla runs just fine though. you can find that in the package repositories.

you can install the 32bit version, but it is somewhat cumbersome, and honestly, might break some things.

install the base 32 bit libraries with:

aptitude install ia32-libs

install the pd-extended package with:

sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture pd-extended-0.XX.deb

and watch the output for errors. you will have to manually download and install the 32bit version of every library that it complains about not having, using this command:

sudo dpkg -x libfoo.deb /emul/ia32-linux

the emul directory might be different in ubuntu I'm not sure.

when you start pd, you will likely see more errors. track down the packages it complains about and manually install them as well.

the "right" way to do this is to install all of the libraries in a chroot, but that is more work that alot of people will want to put in.

if you are interested please read this:
http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205

if you need help with this feel free to message or email me the info is in my profile here.

hello again

I found another useful bit of info buried in my link collection

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/531

happy patching

Many thanks for this help myo,

I'm going to give a try with ALL the libs in i386 arch as well as pd-ext...
Until then, still playing my osc hardware with my pbook.

i managed to compile pd 0.40 / Gem 0.91.0 / pdp 0.12.5 on xubuntu hardy 8.04 64bit without any big problem.
the clue is that, once you want to compile any src on linux, you normally would cd into the src-folder. if inside that folder, you cannot find the ./configure file you're expecting, than you will need to let build this file. you will need autoconf-tools, etc, installed and than you can cd into your src-folder and type:

$ aclocal
$ autoconf

it than builds the files you need.
now you do
$ ./configure --help and check the options.
also read the INSTALL file for additional help
then
$ ./configure --<options> --<moreoptions>
<--only @compilation pd/src you will need to do $ make depend, before proceeding>
$ make -j2
$ sudo make install

everything runs nice,
but,
compiling pidip, gridflow is pain in a..
no avail...
btw, the last time i had a pd-extended.deb installed (on my old laptop 32bit)
gem could just playback quicktime and mpeg. i found it very poor, compiling from sorce is better, you gain avi, and much more...so for now it has to work without pidip..)

good luck

Hello Huii,

Thanks for the infos.

2 days after opening this thread, i upgraded to Hardy64 (what an OS by the way!!), so your post is interesting me a lot.
I'll give it a try as soon as possible.

@myo said:

[...]the trouble is that many of the externals are not very 64bit friendly yet. the core pd-vanilla runs just fine though. you can find that in the package repositories.

Yes, i noticed that. And the point is that i don't know exactly what externs i need. I'm sure for OSC though, but couldn't manage to find the extern that is handling OSC in the PD-ext source tarball...

If i can get a working 64b version (with as many useful exts as possible) i'll put a .deb package on my website and post a link here...

Cheers

sorry for my last post, i must ahve been in a strange state of mind and gave wrong info, too, now i corrected it.

to compile pd-extended, you need to foolow those instructions:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Debian

later, those could be helpful too:

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdExtendedBuildSystem
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/

and at the end those inside: ../Pd-0.XX.X-extended/packages/linux_make/README where very usefull.

unfortunately there libdir loaders of 0.40 version won't compile,
pidip, OSCx and other externals won't compile neither, so I ended up hacking the Makefile in ../Pd-0.XX.X-extended/externals and ../Pd-0.XX.X-extended/packages.
At the end I had a succsesful installation, but as the compilation of libdir failed, all the externeals couldn't load, leaving me with a normal Pd / Gem / Pdp installation, basically. I tried to compile libdir against the former version "Pd-0.39.3-extended", and that worked. the compiled libdir.pd_linux however was not accepted by Pd-0.40.0-extended.
compiling Pd-0.39.3-extended's libdir.c against Pd-0.40.0-extended.spew out the same errors as before.
So, for me, it does not work...

I ended up again removing the whole thing and followed the intruction of myo.
(thanks myo),
followed this "howto install 32-bit .deb packages on 64-bit":
http://www.unixtutorial.org/2008/03/install-32-bit-deb-packages-on-64-bit/
and this one about how to install missing 32-bit libs using getlibs:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790

some packeges couldn't be found by apt-get, so I had to get them here:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/
by typing the missing libs in the searchfield,
downloading the i386 versions,
opening those .deb packages with "Archive Manager" and browsing to data.tar.gz/./usr/lib/
selecting all the files and extracting them to /usr/lib32/

this worked pretty good.
pidip is working,
all externals are loaded,
thanks very much!

..wow, looks beautiful, and works very nice, thanks again

Hi all,
I tried to follow myo suggestions but when I run

$ pd
/usr/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui: error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.4.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I installed also libtk8.4 but it doesn't change.

$ getlibs /usr/bin/pd
This application isn't missing any dependencies

Any idea?

thanxx in advance