in a patch i have a gui slider, with 'init' clicked in the properties dialogue, and then a [loadbang] object.

my question is, will the value for the gui slider always be initialized before the loadbang, or is it related to creation order or other factors?

I did a test where I made a slider then a loadbang: VU slider got to [print] first.

Made a patch with loadbang first then the slider: loadbang was first

opened both multiple times, same results everytime.

I also re-made the first patch (slider then lb) but connected to print oppposite order, slider was still first. Changing positions of objects on screen also changed nothing.

Lastly I deleted the slider and then remade a slider in first patch, init order reversed

So, I would guess first made, first out

aaarrghhh, that's what i feared.

at least with loadbang you can do:

[loadbang]
|
[t b b b b b b]
|
...etc

i guess i will just have to send a bang to the slider after the loadbang is done.