@gsagostinho

it's a library (or better, after this topic, a collection of externals/abstractions),
it's part of the iemlib I downloaded it from here:

https://gitorious.org/pdlib/elthariel-libpd/source/96a54263e650b3469c03a9ec6e9a589396cebb77:pure-data/externals/iemlib/iemabs

ok now it's all clear.

So how would you suggest me to use the iemabs or any other abstraction?
Should I copy what I need into the each project folder or is there any shortcut?

thank very very much

Hi everyone, thank you for the answers

@alexandros said:

Not sure if I get it right too, but I use -path for abstractions and -lib for external libraries

Yes and that exactly what confuses me. Aren't external libraries collections of abstractions?

Getting more in detail, I'm mostly having problem with iemabs, which now it's in Applications/Pd/Contents/Resources/extra folder (path that I've also declared in the path PD preferences), where I also have all the libraries (iemlib, zexy ecc..) which are perfectly working just using [declare -lib]. .
Should I really move the iemabs folder to the project folder everytime I use it?

Hello everybody!

I need some clarifications concerning the declare obj.
I'm working with Pd-Vanilla 0.46-4 (64bit) running on OSx 10.9.5 on a new project in which I'll use some objects from the iemlib, maxlib, iemmatrix ecc.... in order to share this patch in the future, I would like to put these libs inside the project folder and recall them using the declare obj.

So what is the difference between declare -path, declare -lib etc? the help file is not clear for me (maybe I didn't really understand what a library is...).
When should I use -path and when -lib?
Which flag relates to the extra folder (inside Pd.app)? and which one to the usr/Library/Pd (on Mac)?

thank you very very much for everyone's patience

Hey,
still no solution at the moment, so I tried to install Pd from source, but (again!!!) it didn't work.

I followed the instructions in the INSTALL.txt file, so I ran ./autogen.sh and I got:

autoreconf: Entering directory '.'
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Gettext
autoreconf: running: aclocal --force -I m4/generated -I m4
autoreconf: configure.ac: tracing
autoreconf: configure.ac: adding subdirectory portaudio to autoreconf
autoreconf: Entering directory `portaudio'
autoreconf: running: aclocal --force
autoreconf: configure.ac: subdirectory bindings/cpp not present
autoreconf: configure.ac: not using Libtool
autoreconf: running: /opt/local/bin/autoconf --force
configure.ac:104: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LIBTOOL_WIN32_DLL
If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
See the Autoconf documentation.
configure.ac:105: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL
autoreconf: /opt/local/bin/autoconf failed with exit status: 1

so after that "./configure" is not working.

Am I missing something? I don't get it.

I tried those two releases, but no way...
One month ago I installed pd version 0.46-1 and it perfectly worked...
these are the windows that opens when I launch Pd:


...and as I told the console windows is stuck to 1%.
One thing that let me guess that I may have problems with Tcl/Tk is that when I click Pd on the menù bar I get:

instead of a Pd menu.
Could this help?

Gilberto, thank you for the advice, but I worked some years with MaxMSP so I guess it would be easy for me to finally move to Pd. I would prefer not to give up with vanilla.

Hello everybody!

I'm totally new in pure data world etc. so pleeease be patient.

In order to start using pd a friend of mine suggested me not to use pd-extended but pd-vanilla, because it is still a working progress by Miller Puckette, while the last release of pd-exteded is quite old.
So I downloaded Pd version 0.46-4, 64 bits, compiled for Macintosh OSX 10.8 or later (because my computer is running OSX 10.9.5), but it doesn't even open. A very small empty window and a console window stucked at 1%.
Once I tried to install version 0.46-1 and it perfectly worked.
I also tried to compile Pd from source, but again I couldn't: following the instructions on this page (http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/x3.htm#s1.3), when I ran ./configure the terminal responded: -bash: ./configure: No such file or directory. Maybe because I can't figure out if I have TCL/TK installed (even though I red on the web that on mac OS 10.6+ it should be installed by default).
Any idea, explanation, suggestion?
I hope that all these informations are helpful enough.

Thanks