a looping slider that I can play with. Not automated with a metro

Can you elaborate?

Let's say I won't the slider to loop like a turntable record like that sort of control

The slider will rest at 127 and go to 0 and if I its 0 if will rest to 127

I think something shaped like a circle would make more sense. Check out [moonlib/mknob] with the "full angular control" option.

yeah that's good do how do I make h slider do the same thing

You'll need to use [MouseState] to track the mouse position and use that to change the value of [hslider]. But only poll after clicking on it.

"I know you can do this its simple"

thank you