looking for good drum synths

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:13:20 GMT

LiamG — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 12:13:20 GMT

I'm looking for some good drum sounds, preferably synthesis rather than sample based. I'm not that good at making these things myself so I thought I'd take a look at what others have already come up with. I don't necessarily need a suite or even much of an interface, just something that makes noise that I can play with. Any suggestions?

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:00:53 GMT

kandy02 — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:00:53 GMT

http://www.martin-brinkmann.de/pd-patches.html

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:22:13 GMT

LiamG — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 16:22:13 GMT

Thanks @kandy02. I've explored Martin's page before, but haven't found the drums yet. Can you recommend a patch?

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Thu, 17 Sep 2015 23:47:54 GMT

seb-harmonik.ar — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 23:47:54 GMT

also check out the 808 stuff in dlib https://github.com/damiannz/dlib and diy2 http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/patches/patch/76

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:51:54 GMT

LiamG — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 09:51:54 GMT

Hi all

I'd like to re-submit this request for good drum patches. I'm really impressed with
Elastic Drums, which is written in PD, but the code is hidden and I still haven't found any patch that sounds nearly this good. Any new suggestions? Again, I'm not necessarily looking for a whole suite or even an interface--just the DSP portion for now.

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Sat, 03 Sep 2016 10:19:06 GMT

nuromantix — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 10:19:06 GMT

What kind of sounds are you looking for? For realistic sounds, sampling is probably the best bet.
For "analogue emulations" - have you checked the Sound on Sound "synth secrets" series?
Should give you some ideas.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160403115835/http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/allsynthsecrets.htm

I used this info to make great sounds on VSIG which is a proprietary language similar to PD that runs on Eventide effects units.

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Sat, 03 Sep 2016 12:09:56 GMT

LiamG — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 12:09:56 GMT

@nuromantix Yeah, I spent quite a while reading through those. They were interesting but still haven't given me quite what I want. I'm less interested in making something that sounds realistic and more intested in making something that sounds absorbing, with a couple of parameters that really shape the sound (one problem with sampled sounds is that you really only have control over subtractive synthesis once they're there). Again I'd say that Matt's Elastic Drums would be an ideal model, but I've never been able to find a patch that sounds this good!

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Sat, 03 Sep 2016 14:12:56 GMT

whale-av — Sat, 03 Sep 2016 14:12:56 GMT

@LiamG I have used other sounds in the past.... violin "hits", cello picks, etc, and other sounds from the "natural world"..... slowing them right down to create "drum" sounds. If the notes are too pure it ends up sounding like a bell........ but shaping the envelope, gating, compressing, some fuzz or even heavier distortion etc. can get some pretty interesting results.......
David.

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Sun, 04 Sep 2016 16:50:05 GMT

nuromantix — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 16:50:05 GMT

I did these today:
909-ish kick & snares
AM hihats
FM hihats
tom

PD analogue drums.zip

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Sun, 04 Sep 2016 17:32:04 GMT

nuromantix — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 17:32:04 GMT

Here's a cymbal, 808-ish.
cymbal.pd

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Sun, 04 Sep 2016 20:19:58 GMT

nuromantix — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 20:19:58 GMT

Rimshot is really hard.

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Sun, 04 Sep 2016 21:26:10 GMT

jayrope — Sun, 04 Sep 2016 21:26:10 GMT

rimshot or sidestick?

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:51:22 GMT

nuromantix — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:51:22 GMT

I guess I mean sidestick but I'm referring to the type of sound labelled "rimshot" on an 808 or 909.

Here is a pretty lame rimshot and a decent clap.

rimshot.pd clap.pd

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Tue, 06 Sep 2016 05:43:08 GMT

LiamG — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 05:43:08 GMT

@nuromantix Thanks for all this work--I'm enjoying the patches!

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Wed, 03 May 2017 09:42:29 GMT

mod — Wed, 03 May 2017 09:42:29 GMT

that clap is great. Much simpler than the one i made, and sounds better.

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Thu, 04 May 2017 15:05:51 GMT

mod — Thu, 04 May 2017 15:05:51 GMT

That rimshot is a speaker killer!!!

You're multiplying the feedback loop by 14 every pass. really dangerous!

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Sat, 06 Oct 2018 01:10:56 GMT

bocanegra — Sat, 06 Oct 2018 01:10:56 GMT

Old thread, but eternally relevant subject. I do all my sounds from scratch unless I'm desperate for some acoustic sounding stuff. I'm attaching a patch that yields multitudes of percussive sounds from hihats over bells and clank-clonkies to plain weird shit. For your cowbells and and dings and dongs and prrrsccHHHHOOOUNGs this patch delivers. It's fitted with a randomizer for all osc controls and a preset store / recall function.

fmperc.zip

For now, envelope and filter is not stored in presets, but you can control those (just like everything else) with messages

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 16:52:35 GMT

nuromantix — Mon, 08 Oct 2018 16:52:35 GMT

I get this error:
0-a: no such object
0-r: no such object
0-hpf: no such object
0-pld: no such object

Haven't tried to figure out why yet. I did download the whole zip obviously.

EDIT:
Works anyway after I press the "reset envelope & filter" message. Cool sounds!

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Thu, 11 Oct 2018 19:13:25 GMT

bocanegra — Thu, 11 Oct 2018 19:13:25 GMT

@nuromantix Sounds like I forgot to put a loadbang somewhere. I don't get those error messages tho.

Here's another old one I spend a couple of hours dressing up for ease of use:

addperc.zip

This one is based on additive synthesis (6 oscs), with a couple of algorithms allowing you to control the sequence of (un)harmonics and their respective gain with a simple math equation. It excells at metallic bell sounds, but can produce a lot of other weird noises depending how you tweak it. Enjoy!

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:43:39 GMT

LiamG — Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:43:39 GMT

@bocanegra this isn't working for me because of a broken object named [ar~]. Is this a custom abstraction that you forgot to attach?

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:28:25 GMT

bocanegra — Fri, 12 Oct 2018 08:28:25 GMT

Ah, yes, sorry- it's in the fmperc.zip but ill just attach it here:

ar~.pd

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Sat, 20 Oct 2018 07:33:49 GMT

nuromantix — Sat, 20 Oct 2018 07:33:49 GMT

Can't get this one to do anything.....

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Sat, 20 Oct 2018 13:34:58 GMT

bocanegra — Sat, 20 Oct 2018 13:34:58 GMT

@nuromantix there's an abstraction missing in the zip file (the ar~ a simple envelope with exponential curves), I attached it in the following post, but here's the full zip with [ar~] included:

addperc.zip

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Fri, 16 Oct 2020 11:41:41 GMT

tungee — Fri, 16 Oct 2020 11:41:41 GMT

Thanx nuromantix, your patches sounding xtremely good!

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Wed, 24 Nov 2021 00:13:48 GMT

shakfu — Wed, 24 Nov 2021 00:13:48 GMT

@bocanegra, addperc works nicely (and sounds great) in Pd-l2ork but not in vanilla. In the latter I get the following errors:

0-sqt: no such object
0-range: no such object
0-vcof: no such object
0-vcor: no such object
0-vcoa: no such object
0-mixg: no such object
0-mixr: no such object
0-mixa: no such object
0-shape: no such object
0-bpf: no such object
0-bpq: no such object
0-hpf: no such object
0-lpf: no such object
0-ega: no such object
0-egr: no such object

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Wed, 24 Nov 2021 01:23:21 GMT

bocanegra — Wed, 24 Nov 2021 01:23:21 GMT

@shakfu it's an old patch from my purr data days. It has a bunch of message boxes sending to receive objects with $0- prefixes. $0 in message boxes doesn't fly in vanilla. If you insist I'll endeavor to fix it (gonna take some rerouting...)

Reply to looking for good drum synths on Thu, 25 Nov 2021 03:00:23 GMT

danomatika — Thu, 25 Nov 2021 03:00:23 GMT

Check the s_808* objects in my rc-patches. They are vanilla compatible abstractions but you will need u_loader and u_dispatch from rjlib as well.

Here is an old demo with live guitar and generated drums (no samples): 2009_4-16-11_drum_test.mp3

I used to have a lot of free time and a friend (Damian ala dlib) and I spent a weekend with 808 wav recordings at different knob settings and signal block diagrams for each drum channel. We managed to work out how each was generated and do some basic "analog modeling" in Pd. I think the results are pretty good, although I didn't make the toms and the bell was stolen from Andy Farnell.