All info is available here: http://rickygraham.com/pages/pd2live

I look forward to reading/hearing your comments.

Ricky

thanks ricky! i've been really looking forward to checking this out, will let you know how it goes.

Sure! A work-in-progress, so don't be shy about making suggestions for improvements. I'm already working on the specified future work topics.

Wow, that looks impressing!
I am pretty exited about you patch and to find out how things work here.
Thank you for sharing this!

I just walk through your Installation Guide but got some errors (attachment) on my windows box. So, lets dig into it...........for the next weeks.

cheers

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/errors.txt

Ah, OK. Some issues with SSSAD. I will look into this now. Is this using the run-time version or from the patches?

From the patches.

I cant even import the sssad.pd with an new (emty)patch.
But if I rename it to sssa.pd it can be imported.
It looks like sssad is a forbidden name on Windows.
Really strange!

As listed on the web page, you may need to add a few paths to your start-up. From your errors listed here, you need to add a path to load the Ambisonic control abstractions (apanctrl) and the soundhack objects. This should be simple to do based on the guides I have listed.

You also need to update your grid object with the latest grid file I have supplied (0.9 has a bug fix concerning grid points). Grid 0.8 will not display grid points correctly.

I'm happy to see that you have configured the Ambisonic audio rate objects without any problems. They tend to be the most difficult to configure.

SSSAD is a strange one! It should load since the abstractions are in the same directory. I will look into this more, but for now - the corrections above should permit you to test the system without the state-saving presets.

Ah, it may be a Windows issue? Does it work after the rename? More research required and perhaps a question for the author but for now, let's see if anyone else on Windows has the same issue.

if I put your grid.pd in the unauthorized folder pd does not start and give me these errors:

error: Êþﾺﾾ: no such object
error: : no such object
error: : no such object
error: : no such object
error: : no such object
error: : no such object
error: : no such object
error: : no such object
error: : no such object
error: : no such object
error: ﾋF: no such object
error: $çÿÿ&#65419;D$<&#65417;D$&#65419;D$8&#65417;D$ÇD$: not enough arguments supplied
error: &#65411;y: no such object
error: : no such object
error: : no such object
error: : no such object
error: :èÃxH: no such object
error: float: no such object
error: #ËxH: no such object
error: Z: no such object
error: @CÓxH: no such object
error:

ambilib and soundhack seems to work.

Because it is a compile for OSX only! D'oh! I'll get back to Sevy about compiling a Windows version.

edit: I sent a mail and will let you know his response. You should be able to use the GEM representation of the tones in space for now. Glad to hear the ambisonic and +soundhack objects are working.

his won't do it. he hates windows.

OK. First thing: the supplied darwin file is for OSX only, replacing Grid 0.8 for 0.9.

Re: Windows; I got a reply from Colet Patrice:

"If you don't see those changes in next pdx release,
please post a bug report to puredata bug tracker."

I have logged the bug with Hans:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3496337&group_id=55736&atid=478070

In the meantime, use the GEM representation available.

Ricky

@ricky said:

Because it is a compile for OSX only! D'oh! I'll get back to Sevy about compiling a Windows version.

edit: I sent a mail and will let you know his response. You should be able to use the GEM representation of the tones in space for now. Glad to hear the ambisonic and +soundhack objects are working.

Hello Ricky,

what is exactly the bug in grid v0.8?

As per my email to Colet Patrice;

There may be some issues concerning negative grid points using the [value $1 $2( message, which I experienced on OSX (cf. correspondence with Sevy below). But perhaps not!

Ricky

ola,

yes, there was a little issue
with coordinates.

it's fixed in version 0.9 on my cvs:

export CVSROOT=:pserver:anomymous@giss.tv:/home/cvs
cvs co unauthorized

( i'm working there now,
not on sourceforge anymore )

cheers,
sevy

Richard Graham wrote:
Hi,

Can [grid] take negative scale values in properties? i.e. -1 to 1 on both axis? Not working for me. [values 0 0( produces 1,1. on grid.

Best wishes,

Ricky

Hi Ricky:
Did you try to overcome the lack of negative vaues in [grid ] by putting mapping objects before and after the object. Thus, if the grid works between 0 and 1 on both axes you may map it into maybe [ -X0 , X1 ] in x and [ -Y0 , Y1 ].
Best regards,

Sumidero

PD: BTW, I frequently wonder why some free pretty stuff is almost always coded only for Mac... It's almost like GNU+Linux but much more expensive!

Hey!

Yes, but I like it when objects work as they are intended Perhaps you may have missed the point that Sevy actually fixed the OSX version for me (Grid 0.9), and you can download that from my site. I will attach it to this post as well. I'm not sure if the same issue occurs with Grid 0.8 on Windows and Linux, but I assume that it does as no one seemed to be aware of the presented scenario.

Ricky

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/grid.pd_darwin.zip

Hi, Ricky:

@ricky said:

Yes, but I like it when objects work as they are intended

Yes, absolutely. Things should work properly so we don't have to do workarounds. Surely I am still used to not having any support due to the use of cracked software for years, he he. Not anymore since I switched to Debian. Everything is legal now at my computers.

@ricky said:

Perhaps you may have missed the point that Sevy actually fixed the OSX version for me (Grid 0.9), and you can download that from my site. I will attach it to this post as well.

Thanks anyway, Ricky, but you may have missed the point that I use GNU+Linux, he he. (It's in my signtature). In fact, at your site I found the soundhack~ abstractions for Pd quite useful, thank you again. I don't remember quite well now but there was an external that was only for Mac, but don't take it so seriously, I just wanted to test your set without six input channels, anyway. Just for learning something.

@ricky said:

I'm not sure if the same issue occurs with Grid 0.8 on Windows and Linux, but I assume that it does as no one seemed to be aware of it within the context of the presented scenario.

Ricky

Once again, I try not to use gui elements but the essential amount for reading info about what's going on inside my patches. I started doing so since the gui provoked clics and cuts in the sound stream when I switched desktops when going to and from qtractor, ardour, zynaddsubfx, or any other software I may use under jack. That's why I didn't put attention to the upgrade of the [grid ] object. Maybe on Mac these issues are not found. I used "awesome" as desktop environment until I found these awful glitches. Now with gnome it's not very common. I read somewhere that the language Pd-extended gui is wrote on, Tcl/Tk, is not "multithreaded" but serial-like, meaning that it refreshes each gui element in its turn. That's from where the glitches and cuts may arise. It's better to program a pd patch to make glitch music just when one wants, ha ha

I wish you (already more) success with your PhD thesis!
Best regards,

Sumidero

Thanks anyway, Ricky, but you may have missed the point that I use GNU+Linux, he he. (It's in my signtature). In fact, at your site I found the soundhack~ abstractions for Pd quite useful, thank you again. I don't remember quite well now but there was an external that was only for Mac, but don't take it so seriously, I just wanted to test your set without six input channels, anyway. Just for learning something.

Trust me, I try not to take myself or these projects too seriously; life is too short! I wasn't sure whether I was clear on that point before. I was just re-iterating that there was a fix for OS X. Thanks for your kind words, Sumidero.

Re: External for Mac. I know, only until recently, that [sigmund~] was not available for Windows (don't know about Linux) but I think it is available cross-platform these days. I know a Windows version emerged sometime after 2009. Maybe that is (or was) the external?

Hi Ricky,

I installed the requisite libraries in my externals folder (in OSX), and I continue to experience this error (Check the attachment)

Please can you let me know what I did wrong?

Yar,

Michael

http://www.pdpatchrepo.info/hurleur/Errors-Palumbo.rtf

You need to set-up your libraries like I have stated on the webpage. I'm on holiday right now. I will reply soon. In the meantime:

http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/ch011_advanced-configuration/
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files/

How is the board coming along?

Ricky