<![CDATA[Note overlap when using poly and clone objects]]>Hello patchers! I have been watching a tutorial series by Really Useful Plugins where they recreate yamaha dx7 synth and repeated after them. Finishing, i ran into a problem related to polyphony.
So, the problem is when i press a note it plays all 8 voices at the same time, when i play other note, it keeps playing previous ones with the current one. This may happen due to ADSR, but i checked everything several times and still cannot solve it. I admit that the solution may be pretty obvious, but i am new to this sorry. I checked manuals and tutorials, but they weren't very useful.
Here is the zip with the patch.
dx7.zip

  1. Here are poly and clone themselves
    need-some-help-with-clone-and-poly-v0-g0cp90rpv05d1.webp
  2. Here is dx7-poly object, which is cloned
    need-some-help-with-clone-and-poly-v0-atrwiqtpv05d1.webp
  3. On previous photo the $0-oscmsgs is sent, here is where it is delivered
    need-some-help-with-clone-and-poly-v0-h1iutlvpv05d1.webp
  4. ADSR object which is stolen from pd documentation examples
    Screenshot from 2024-06-07 22-35-06.png
    I hope very much for your help! thx
]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objectsRSS for NodeTue, 17 Mar 2026 15:01:26 GMTFri, 07 Jun 2024 19:40:07 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Note overlap when using poly and clone objects on Fri, 07 Jun 2024 19:40:07 GMT]]>Hello patchers! I have been watching a tutorial series by Really Useful Plugins where they recreate yamaha dx7 synth and repeated after them. Finishing, i ran into a problem related to polyphony.
So, the problem is when i press a note it plays all 8 voices at the same time, when i play other note, it keeps playing previous ones with the current one. This may happen due to ADSR, but i checked everything several times and still cannot solve it. I admit that the solution may be pretty obvious, but i am new to this sorry. I checked manuals and tutorials, but they weren't very useful.
Here is the zip with the patch.
dx7.zip

  1. Here are poly and clone themselves
    need-some-help-with-clone-and-poly-v0-g0cp90rpv05d1.webp
  2. Here is dx7-poly object, which is cloned
    need-some-help-with-clone-and-poly-v0-atrwiqtpv05d1.webp
  3. On previous photo the $0-oscmsgs is sent, here is where it is delivered
    need-some-help-with-clone-and-poly-v0-h1iutlvpv05d1.webp
  4. ADSR object which is stolen from pd documentation examples
    Screenshot from 2024-06-07 22-35-06.png
    I hope very much for your help! thx
]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objectshttp://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objectsFri, 07 Jun 2024 19:40:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Note overlap when using poly and clone objects on Sat, 08 Jun 2024 00:44:21 GMT]]>@weuoimi your zip is missing the pm-osc abstraction

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/2http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/2Sat, 08 Jun 2024 00:44:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Note overlap when using poly and clone objects on Sat, 08 Jun 2024 18:04:24 GMT]]>@weuoimi and you were right, your 's line' and 'r line' in the adsr should be made abstraction-local by using $0 somewhere in the name (like 's $0-line')

in pd sends and receives aren't scoped, they are global. therefore your adsr [s line] sends are sending to every other adsr instance's [r line] as well. However $0 gets substituted for number that's unique for each patch or abstraction (not subpatches using [pd ] though) so you can just substitute [s $0-line] and [r $0-line] for those and it will solve the problem

maybe this should be fixed in the documentation as well..
edit: I opened an issue: https://github.com/pure-data/pddp/issues/218
edit2: I guess this was already fixed for the next release

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/3http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/3Sat, 08 Jun 2024 18:04:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Note overlap when using poly and clone objects on Sat, 08 Jun 2024 10:56:18 GMT]]>you need to have the note-off value 0 to turn off the note, >0 is filtering it out
I do it this way.
Capture.PNG

and rather than -1 the poly index, set the clone index to start at 1 with the -s flag

image.png

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/4http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/4Sat, 08 Jun 2024 10:56:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Note overlap when using poly and clone objects on Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:34:55 GMT]]>@Balwyn how would > 0 on velocity filter out note-offs? 0 would still be zero..

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/5http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/5Sat, 08 Jun 2024 12:34:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Note overlap when using poly and clone objects on Sun, 09 Jun 2024 04:20:56 GMT]]>seb-harmonik.ar oops, yes your right of course

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/6http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/6Sun, 09 Jun 2024 04:20:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Note overlap when using poly and clone objects on Sun, 09 Jun 2024 08:30:06 GMT]]>@weuoimi apparently the [adsr] has been altered for the tutorial, there are direct connections instead of send and receives
see below
I recreated pm-osc from the tutorial and used this adsr and your dx7 works
image.png

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/7http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14751/note-overlap-when-using-poly-and-clone-objects/7Sun, 09 Jun 2024 08:30:06 GMT