<![CDATA[Pure Data and AI]]>A real AI should be able to do this:

I input an audio file (of any musical instrument, noise, etc...), for example a held note from a particular pipe organ inside a particular architecture, or a large stone thrown into the water, and I ask to build me a puredata patch that perfectly simulates that sound.
Obviously I don't want the AI ​​to go looking for a pre-made patch without modifying it, otherwise I'll find it myself, I want the AI ​​to create it from scratch and perfectly.
Can we reach these levels?

a.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-aiRSS for NodeSat, 06 Jun 2026 08:28:52 GMTThu, 07 Mar 2024 16:10:50 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Pure Data and AI on Thu, 07 Mar 2024 16:12:04 GMT]]>A real AI should be able to do this:

I input an audio file (of any musical instrument, noise, etc...), for example a held note from a particular pipe organ inside a particular architecture, or a large stone thrown into the water, and I ask to build me a puredata patch that perfectly simulates that sound.
Obviously I don't want the AI ​​to go looking for a pre-made patch without modifying it, otherwise I'll find it myself, I want the AI ​​to create it from scratch and perfectly.
Can we reach these levels?

a.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-aihttp://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-aiThu, 07 Mar 2024 16:12:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Pure Data and AI on Thu, 07 Mar 2024 17:59:53 GMT]]>@atux No problem...... https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/8699/artificial-intelligence-part-1-pdana

But seriously...
Not yet. IMHO maybe never. It needs training and has had (nearly) none (see below). ChatGPT is probably still the best engine as it has had a massive amount of language training. But 9 months ago, asked to code for Pd, It didn't even "know" what "stereo`" meant regarding a [dac~]....... https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14373/chatgpt-to-generate-pd-patch

It would probably conclude that there are better methods than Pd for the re-synthesis, or that you should go and throw a stone into water and record that as it will be better and easier.

AI can be found in Pd as far back as 2013......... AI wizard.zip

I get my fun solving problems myself, so AI doesn't interest me at all. If it ever gets to the point where it is actually intelligent (doubtful) it is likely to logically conclude that I, you, and indeed all humans, are not actually useful. I am not intelligent enough to know what that will mean for us when we have given it decision making powers, but I could guess.......
David.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/2http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/2Thu, 07 Mar 2024 17:59:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Pure Data and AI on Thu, 07 Mar 2024 23:59:00 GMT]]>The closest thing I tried is https://soniccharge.com/synplant

Synthplant 2 vst, can listen to any sound, build a synth based on some FM patch magic that reproduce it sometimes at an incredible level of realism.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/3http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/3Thu, 07 Mar 2024 23:59:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Pure Data and AI on Fri, 08 Mar 2024 00:02:55 GMT]]>@whale-av said:

https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14373/chatgpt-to-generate-pd-patch

I will try to connect to chat gpt API tomorow using [shell] etc and see if I can parse useful stuffs ;)
Maybe using purest_json external... but It seems that I need to add credit in an account first.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/4http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/4Fri, 08 Mar 2024 00:02:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Pure Data and AI on Fri, 20 Jun 2025 15:17:55 GMT]]>@atux said:

A real AI should be able to do this:

I don't think you understand what AI is or does :)

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/5http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/5Fri, 20 Jun 2025 15:17:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Pure Data and AI on Thu, 23 Oct 2025 13:17:27 GMT]]>We’re not quite there yet. Current AI can analyze and approximate the timbre or spectrum of a sound, even generate similar tones using models like DDSP or neural synthesis, but building a Pure Data patch that perfectly reproduces it from scratch is another level. It would need deep understanding of the physics, acoustics, and synthesis structure behind the sound. We’re getting closer, though — tools like Riffusion, Magenta, and even Sifflet-style observability for audio pipelines show that AI is starting to “understand” signals more than just imitate them.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/6http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/6Thu, 23 Oct 2025 13:17:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Pure Data and AI on Thu, 23 Oct 2025 21:15:35 GMT]]>@dreamer said:

I don't think you understand what AI is or does

+1

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/7http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/7Thu, 23 Oct 2025 21:15:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Pure Data and AI on Sun, 08 Mar 2026 00:01:49 GMT]]>@porres said:

@dreamer said:

I don't think you understand what AI is or does

+1

-1

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/8http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/14656/pure-data-and-ai/8Sun, 08 Mar 2026 00:01:49 GMT