Automatonism - further problems!

Reply to Automatonism - further problems! on Sun, 21 Nov 2021 13:39:17 GMT

JackOats — Sun, 21 Nov 2021 13:39:17 GMT

Hi All - After my previous post details I moved to a 2nd iMac to run a Test to see if I could understand why I am having these problems.

On the Test patch (please see attachment) parameters are still not being saved after closing & restarting Automatonism - but now when I call up the Module List (Esc button) the modules I click are not loading up either.

This is driving me crazy - I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what.

Any help would really be appreciated. Many thanks.

I am using Pd-0.51-4 Vanilla, by the way.

Reply to Automatonism - further problems! on Mon, 22 Nov 2021 06:34:14 GMT

whale-av — Mon, 22 Nov 2021 06:34:14 GMT

@JackOats You could name your folder that contains a complete copy of Automatism "Drum Test 1" I suppose........ but the patch you have to open for Automatism to work is main.pd.........
Naming the folders that contain copies of Automatism will keep your projects separate....... a copy of the complete download should be made with nothing changed inside the folder. Then you open main.pd within that folder to start work. Do not use "save as" from the Pd menu........ only use the "save" button within main.pd.
You can see in your console that main.pd cannot be found. You cannot rename it to Drum Test 1 or anything other than "main"...........as then none of the state saving and links will work.
David.

Reply to Automatonism - further problems! on Mon, 22 Nov 2021 09:33:43 GMT

JackOats — Mon, 22 Nov 2021 09:33:43 GMT

@whale-av Ahh! Thanks very much, David. I'll try again using your guidelines.

Seems odd & not a very user friendly procedure, but I'll give it a go - I really do like Automatonism & Pd.

Reply to Automatonism - further problems! on Tue, 23 Nov 2021 10:13:09 GMT

jyg — Tue, 23 Nov 2021 10:13:09 GMT

Automatonism was created before [savestate] object was added to puredata. Since, it's easier to save state of objects in a patch, without textfiles.
If you are interested, I made for my own purposes a fork from original Automatonism project, that saves states inside the main patch (that you can rename with an arbitrary name) . https://github.com/jyg/automatonism-reloaded

Reply to Automatonism - further problems! on Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:07:48 GMT

JackOats — Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:07:48 GMT

@jyg Hi. Thanks for the message. I have clicked on the included link - but I'm afraid I don't know how to:
Unzip it into your puredata - externals folder.
as suggested in Installation.
Sorry to be so dim - any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Reply to Automatonism - further problems! on Wed, 24 Nov 2021 21:29:30 GMT

jyg — Wed, 24 Nov 2021 21:29:30 GMT

Hi,
Sorry, by "puredata - externals folder" , I meant the folder where all extensions objects to puredata are stored. Usually it is : home//Documents/Pd/externals

You should uncompress the zip archive there.
However, until I simplify the installation procedure, there is another step to follow . You may have to install another external : iemguts. There is a menu in Pd to do this.
Hope that helps

Reply to Automatonism - further problems! on Mon, 29 Nov 2021 09:07:29 GMT

JackOats — Mon, 29 Nov 2021 09:07:29 GMT

Hi jyg - Thanks very much for clearing that up. Will give it a go.

Reply to Automatonism - further problems! on Mon, 21 Jul 2025 22:13:53 GMT

1-1110 — Mon, 21 Jul 2025 22:13:53 GMT

Hello there, I love Pure Data and what I found recently was Automatonism framework. I am completely amazed by its capabilities in terms of sound design and patching.
It is extremely awesome.
However after a love period I came to face a bug, which is connected to the interference of the kick (for example) and the preset manager's adjustability. Specifically when I parameter a kick pitch and store it in the preset manager, than increasing the value of the pitch and store it again ( in another slot ) there is an immediate change to the previous state of the pitch glider.
Anyone has faced this issue so far?
I tried it on Mac OS - newest with recent PD and PD 0.51-4
Than these PD-s on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS through Virtual Machine on Win 11 pro
And also on Win 11 pro.
So I have this question have you ever faced this issue with Automatonism?
I trully appreciate any kind of help of course.
I am in love with the software without any doubt.

Reply to Automatonism - further problems! on Tue, 22 Jul 2025 09:38:27 GMT

jyg — Tue, 22 Jul 2025 09:38:27 GMT

@1-1110 Hi, I can reproduce it with automatonism 3.0 version. Really seems a bug.
However, kick and some other objects have their own integrated preset system, and should not interact with the preset-manager module.

For your information, I made my own fork of automatonism with new features.
You can directly install a (not so updated) version from pd's "find externals" menu. (just search for "automatonism" in the dialog box).
Still some bugs, but the github repo https://github.com/jyg/automatonism-reloaded is more up to date. My plans are to make a new deken release this summer.