<![CDATA[Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching]]>Hi,
I have an abstraction with a bunch of stuff that changes (including the GOP area) via dynamic patching whenever it gets a message from the parent patch. But whenever I send the message, the parent patch instantly switches to edit mode, which is unpleasant. Does anybody know if and how it's possible to avoid it, perhaps in the donecanvasdialog message?
Pd 0.49.1.

Thanks in advance.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patchingRSS for NodeSat, 16 May 2026 21:12:15 GMTMon, 10 Jun 2019 22:45:25 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:45:25 GMT]]>Hi,
I have an abstraction with a bunch of stuff that changes (including the GOP area) via dynamic patching whenever it gets a message from the parent patch. But whenever I send the message, the parent patch instantly switches to edit mode, which is unpleasant. Does anybody know if and how it's possible to avoid it, perhaps in the donecanvasdialog message?
Pd 0.49.1.

Thanks in advance.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patchinghttp://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patchingMon, 10 Jun 2019 22:45:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Mon, 10 Jun 2019 23:37:12 GMT]]>@weightless You can name the the main canvas with [namecanvas] and send [editmode 0( to it.
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]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/2http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/2Mon, 10 Jun 2019 23:37:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:10:28 GMT]]>But also i can't reproduce the main patch going into edit mode...

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/3http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/3Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:10:28 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:18:58 GMT]]>@ingox Thanks for your reply. I found out that in fact the parent patch goes into edit mode because I'm also clearing and resizing a subpatch inside the abstraction, without the subpatch it doesn't. In both cases, [editmode 0( doesn't seem to make a difference in the patent patch. editmode.zip
I wonder why this is and if it can be avoided.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/4http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/4Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:18:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:33:03 GMT]]>@weightless Yes, this is strange. It is possible to set the main patch back to non-edit mode like this: parent.pd

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]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/5http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/5Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:33:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:38:23 GMT]]>@ingox Yes that would be a way to do it. It turns out that if I turn that subpatch into another abstraction, the problem disappears. Very odd, but it'll do for now. Thanks for your help! editmode2.zip

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/6http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/6Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:38:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:50:51 GMT]]>I spoke too soon, the whole point of having a subpatch is to be able to clear it, if I turn it into an abstraction, clearing it removes the namecanvas too and there's no way to uniquely address it. I think I'll go with your solution, it's not really ideal but it might be the only way to do it. Thanks.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/7http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/7Tue, 11 Jun 2019 00:50:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 01:46:04 GMT]]>@weightless I found another solution: Some dynamic patching techniques require the patch to be visible, for example mouse click commands. To perform them on an otherwise hidden subpatch, it is required to send [vis 1( before the other commands and [vis 0( afterwards. This happens instantly, so the patch is not actually visible. This can also help here: abstraction.pd
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But unfortunately this makes the transition less smooth. Also worth noting that the problem doesn't seem to appear in Pd 0.48.1.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/8http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/8Tue, 11 Jun 2019 01:46:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:38:16 GMT]]>@ingox Thank you, this works much better for my purposes since the input doesn't change ofter at all.

It's interesting you say that Pd 0.48.1 doesn't have the same problem, maybe it's a bug in the new version. Do you know how I can report it? I've never done it before.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/9http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/9Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:38:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:40:16 GMT]]>@weightless I believe this is the bug tracker: https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/ :)

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/10http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/10Tue, 11 Jun 2019 11:40:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:06:06 GMT]]>@ingox Following that link, I found out that the issue has been already reported here https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/623.
Somewhere in there is suggested to use the [coords( message instead of [donecanvasdialog(, and that works for me. editmode_coords.zip

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/11http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/11Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:06:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:13:51 GMT]]>@weightless You can report a bug directly (opens the link) from the Pd "Help" window menu.
Hmmm.... too many years messing about with [donecavasdialog.................... ,dirty 0(
And there it was....... "coords" sitting in every pd patch containing a gop........... :scream: ing :rage:

I thought I had gone through https://puredata.info/docs/developer/PdFileFormat with a fine toothcomb.
Obviously not.
David.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/12http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/12Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:13:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:24:10 GMT]]>@whale-av Thanks, but for some reason "report a bug" is greyed out.
I think coords only works when GOP is already enabled, or at least it accepts a different message if it's not. If you save an empty patch, and look it up in a text editor with and without GOP, the coords line at the end is of different lengths.
Perhaps donecanvasdialog is more "universal" in that sense, even though I've read in the Pd list that in recent PD versions, in place of the number 2 which usually meant GOP with hidden name and arguments, now number 3 has to be used. I can't link to the list but the thread is called "Donecanvasdialog changed?"

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/13http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/13Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:24:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:41:33 GMT]]>@weightless Well, of course you can create a gop dynamically.......
...... the fun commences....... hmm.zip
Go figure.... as they say.
Will have to open that up in a text editor to have any chance.
The green bang isn't in the parent.
David.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/14http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/14Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:41:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:39:02 GMT]]>@whale-av Nice, so at this point it seems like there is no reason to use donecanvasdialog anymore, quite the opposite in fact.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/15http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/15Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:39:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:54:20 GMT]]>@weightless Yes....... double-gopped and check mate I think.
I wonder what can be done with it?
The green bang stays showing on the parent even when it is deleted.
What else?
It seems the nested gop doesn't need to be lined up with the abstraction gop.
Yes, you can create a GOP in an abstraction or sub-patch..... hmm.zip
David.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/16http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/16Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:54:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:02:41 GMT]]>@whale-av You can force a canvas to be redrawn by sending [map 0, map 1( to it. This gets rid of any artifacts, like the green bang in this example: parent.pd

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]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/17http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/17Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:02:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:05:33 GMT]]>@weightless These are the threads from the mailing list:

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/18http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/18Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:05:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:10:21 GMT]]>@weightless 0 1 2 still works for coords in 0.49 widows.
parent.pd

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/19http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/19Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:10:21 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:10:47 GMT]]>@ingox Yes, thanks for the links.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/20http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/20Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:10:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:10:40 GMT]]>@whale-av Yes, i think Miller made it backwards compatible in the end: https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2017-07/119724.html

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/21http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/21Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:10:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Thu, 13 Jun 2019 13:09:01 GMT]]>@ingox Ahh...... that makes sense.
"coords" is much cleaner than "donecanvasdialog", works even in extended (of course) and will be easier to use for popups...... and for choice selection by moving gop windows, which needed some dirty hacks to get working with donecanvasdialog..
I like it.
And artefacts can be removed without a "map" message to the parent by clearing and redrawing the graph, in similar fashion to donecanvasdialog......... gop_switch_coords.pd
David.

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/22http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/22Thu, 13 Jun 2019 13:09:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Edit mode switches on with dynamic patching on Mon, 23 Sep 2019 19:27:36 GMT]]>Hi,
I have some trouble with gop_switch_coords.pd .
When I change coords and go back, I have trouble with the sliders hsl, vsl. other gui's are ok.
The mouse interacts with the slider (if you connect it to a number, you can see the changing value), but the display is not refreshed.

The workaround is to send a [map 0, map 1( message to the parent patch, but it'is difficult for me not to use [iemguts/sendcanvas] for doing that.

Donecanvasdialog doesn't work well with pd 0.50, when zooming = 2

]]>http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/23http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/12103/edit-mode-switches-on-with-dynamic-patching/23Mon, 23 Sep 2019 19:27:36 GMT