Reply to Trying to run Gem for Pd Windows 10 64 bit on Sat, 19 May 2018 10:47:55 GMT

jeffgrips — Sat, 19 May 2018 10:47:55 GMT

Hello, I'm using Pd Vanilla on Windows 10 64-bit, and I'm having trouble installing and running externals, specifically Gem. I tried installing Gem into C:\Program Files (x86)\pd\extra, and I also tried installing it into C:\Program Files\pd-0.48-1test2-ia64\extra. Both times I created a path for the Gem folder within those "extra" folders under Edit < Preferences < Path, and I added each .dll file as a library to load on startup at Edit < Preferences < Startup. The result is that when I open Pd, it says that all the libraries can't be loaded, and then when I try to make a [gemwin] object in a new patch, it cannot create most of the necessary objects. What am I doing wrong? Is it because I'm running 64 bit Windows? How can I make it work?

Reply to Trying to run Gem for Pd Windows 10 64 bit on Sat, 16 Jun 2018 09:06:01 GMT

whale-av — Sat, 16 Jun 2018 09:06:01 GMT

@jeffgrips I have it running with vanilla in Windows7.... but it was hard...... and it's a long story....
I cannot see any reason that it would not work for widows10.
I have not found any other easier better solution.
(((SEE below though for the fact that the -lib needs to be declared...!
That could be your only problem? But I doubt it..!!! )))

I used the 64-bit GEM from here (0.94-test3.zip)..... https://github.com/avilleret/Gem/releases/

I unzipped it and put it in a folder (which I called "dot") on my desktop.

Because I am using many different versions of Pure Data I left it there, and I start Pd with a shortcut that also points to the GEM folder and loads it as a library (It has to be loaded at startup as a library...... and that could be why you don't have it working.... but probably not...).
This is the contents of the line "target" in the shortcut.......

"C:\Users\David\Desktop\Pd Vanilla\pd-0.47-1.msw\pd\bin\pd.exe" -lib C:\Users\David\Desktop\dot\0.94-test3/Gem -font-size 10 -font-face "Consolas"

Be careful with forward / backward slashes.

I am pretty sure that I tipped the contents of the "QT" folder out into the "0.94-test3 folder" where gem.dll is (from within the "QT" folder inside "0.94-test3").
If you find some .dlls are missing then post back with a list, and I can upload them....... but you might not have the correct C++ redistributables from Microsoft.

But if you want to start Pd normally by double-clicking a patch then you will need to declare the library in Pd.. edit....preferences.... startup......
If you have GEM in the extra folder you should only need to put "-lib Gem" where you see that I have put "-noautopatch".......

The gem abstractions could not be found though (the "parts of Gem... .like [pix_image] pix_video] [gemwin] etc. worked fine) I copied the contents of the Gem folder from "extended" into a folder on the desktop called "GemAbstr" and set a path to it in Pd preferences.
I removed gem.dll from that folder (no conflicts....!).
The abstractions now create, but the help files for embedded objects cannot be found (different "search" for embedded objects) so I have to open my "GemAbstr" folder and open them manually.

Everything works. All the patches from https://puredata.info/downloads/extended-view-toolkit create and run correctly. The camera on my computer even works (I had never had it working before).
And it works with Spout.

If you go this route then I wish you good luck.......

@zerino has confirmed that it can work with widows10........ https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/11450/pix-and-geometric-objects-not-being-loaded-in-pd-vanilla/7
........and resolved the "help" file problem.....

For the time being you are lucky that you are using Windows.
This solution is not available for other systems.
David.

Reply to Trying to run Gem for Pd Windows 10 64 bit on Thu, 24 May 2018 19:31:25 GMT

Johnny Mauser — Thu, 24 May 2018 19:31:25 GMT

@whale-av Thank you for this documentation! I use windows very rarely, but will remember this post when i do so!!