GEM alternative for Tk GUIs?
Since a while I design Pd patches in such a way that they can be operated from a touch screen. Bangs and toggles with ample size (50x50 pix), and in some cases a large x-y field where standard Tk GUIs can be moved around in runtime when they receive [pos x y( messages. Like a Kaoss pad, but now with dozens of effects and parameters available simultaneously.
Though I'm happy to see that Pd can be operated from a touch screen, layout options with the Tk GUIs are very limited of course. Therefore I now consider using GEM for interactive GUI purposes. Pictograms could be used to indicate controller types, and audio settings could be reflected not only with numbers, colors, or position, but also with motion. For example, a cogwheel represents a sample or loop, and it's rotation speed indicates playback speed. GEM could give more information on controller state than Tk objects, making the interface more intuitive. And certainly more inspiring!
But now comes my question. Where Tk GUIs are made for interaction and visualisation, GEM seems to be made for visualisation mainly. So far, I found no simple method to make clickable objects in a GEM window, replacing toggles and bangs for example. How can you prompt a graphical object in the GEM window to identify itself on click? Does anyone know of patches where GEM is employed for such purposes?
An example of a Tk-based touch interface which I'd like to translate to GEM is described here:
http://www.katjaas.nl/slicejockey/slicejockey.html
Thanks in advance for your suggestions,
Katja
NVidia puredyne vs vista
Hey
Once again I'm back on vista. My brief journey to puredyne goes something like this.
from puredyne
partitioned new hard drive with 4 partitions 1-swap , 2 ext4 200Gib, 1 NTFS 200GB . Copied Vista to NTFS partition with gparted(started to do this with dd but with new Gibabits stuff I was skeered but hey a platter is a platter and a cluster is a cluster right). Actually there was a 5th partition in there which was the vista restoration partition but I eventually deleted it for obvious reasons.
Removed old drive ,
took machine to ethernet connection with internet,
booted to vista ,
installed Norton virus scanner - only 1 virus, 2 tracking cookies, and one gain trickler after over a year with no virus scanner, Thats pretty good and shows you can be selective about what you download and where you visit on the web and not get any viruses.
Was trying to get windows movie maker to work with mov codec which it doesnt.
Installed auto updates for the first and only time. this took about 3 hours and still needed to install service pack 1, 2. Aborted trying to update win movie maker
****Problem 1***** MS movie maker does not work with GEM mov video output codec.
Installed latest Nvidia drivers for vista.
Woohooo OpenGl hardware acceleration GEM works so much better in vista now.
*****Problem 2********ASIO for all does not allow 2 applications to run with audio and midi at the same time. If I wanted to run Widi and play my guitar so puredata can receive midi input from guitar ASIO will not allow it but ASIO for all is the only way I can get latency down so this would be feasible.
Got frustrated.
Installed fresh copy of puredyne onto 2nd ext4 partition.
ran puredata audio latency good with fresh install. gem video bad.
used synaptics to install nvidia drivers. v185 I think.
ran GEm error no opengl config.
downloaded gdeb , flash player, google chrome, nvidia drivers from nvidia site.
installed gdeb from terminal, flash and chrome from gdeb.
rebooted to log in as root and iunstalled nvidia drivers.
woohoo hardware acceleration for opengl
******problem 3************
gem works great but audio glitches with puredata window visible.
when only gem window is visible i can unaudioglitchily move the mouse around to control same parameters that would normaly be controled with sliders in pd window.
Seems like before i upgraded nvidia video drivers hw:do o whatever it is, was listed in JackD as realtek HD Audio, now it is listed as NVIDIA HD Audio.
So Gem works great but not when Pd window is open and I think my audio drivers were replaced with Nvidia.
I would really like to get back to my patch and stop wasting time on these operating systems and hardware configurations I thought in the last 15 years all this hardware acelleration and autodetection would be figured out but no all we got is rc.0, rc.01, rc.02, rc, etc...... instead of just rc.d.
Ok I'm getting an error when I exit puredyne that says pid file not found is jackd running. anyone know what that means?
Also does anyone have a keymap for gem keyboard for linux, windows and mac so I don't have to record them.
Any suggestions about what to do about my ASIO problems in windows?
Any suggestions about my audio driver in Linux?
Any suggestions about my GEM mov video / windows incompatibilities?
I can import the mov video and audio to SF Acid 3.0 and output a 2Gb avi then import it into windows movie maker but this is crazy to do for a 7 minute 12fps 320x240 video.
Ahhhhhhhhh!
Any suggestions are welcome!
PS I believe someone could rewrite puredata's audio and video interface in assembly language to control their hardware before figuring out how to get these operating systems to do it.
DJ/VJ scratching system
First my story: (you can skip down to END OF STORY if you want)
Ever since I saw Mike Relm go to town with a DVDJ, I've wanted a system where I could scratch and cue video. However, I haven't wanted to spend the $2500 for a DVDJ. As I was researching, I found a number of different systems. I am not a DJ by trade, so to get a system like Traktor or Serrato with their video modules plus turntables plus hardware plus a DJ mixer, soon everything gets really expensive. But in looking around, I found the Ms.Pinky system and after a little bit, I found a USB turntable on Woot for $60. So I bought it. It was marketed as a DJ turntable, but I knew that it wasn't really serious since it had a belt drive, but it came with a slip-pad and the USB connection meant that I wouldn't need a preamp. And so I spend the $100 on the Ms.Pinky vinyl plus software license (now only $80). This worked decently, but I had a lot of trouble really getting it totally on point. The relative mode worked well, but sometimes would skip if I scratched too vigorously. The absolute mode I couldn't get to work at all. After reading a little more, I came to the conclusion that my signal from vinyl to computer just wasn't strong enough, so I would need maybe a new needle or maybe a different turntable and I didn't really want to spend the money experimenting. I think that the Ms. Pinky system is probably a very good system with the right equipment, but I don't do this professionally, so I don't want to spend the loot on a system.
Earlier, before I bought Ms.Pinky (about two years ago), I had also looked around for a cheap MIDI USB DJ controller and not found one. Well, about a month ago, I saw the ION Discover DJ controller was on sale at Bed, Bath & Beyond for $50. They sold out before I could get one, but Vann's was selling it for $70, so I decided that that was good enough and bought one. I had planned to try to use it with Ms. Pinky since you can hook up MIDI controllers to it. But it turns out that you can hook up MIDI controllers to every control except the turntable, so that was a no go. If I had Max/MSP/Jitter, I could have changed that, but that's also way expensive. So, how should I scratch? My controller came with DJ'ing software and there's also some freeware, like Mixxx, but none of this has video support. So I look around and find Pure Data and GEM.
And I see lots of questions about scratching, how to do it. And there are even some tutorials and small patches out there, but as I look at them, none of them are quite what I'm looking for. The YouTube tutorial is really problematic because it's no good at all for scratching a song. It can create a scratching sound for a small sample, but it's taking the turntable's speed and using that as the position in the sample. If you did that with a longer song, it wouldn't even sound like a scratch. And then there are some which do work right, but none of them keep track of where you are in the playback. So, whenever you start scratching, you're starting from the beginning of the song or the middle.
So, I looked at all this and I said, "Hey, I can do this. I've got my spring break coming up. Looking at how easy PD looks and how much other good (if imperfect) work other people have done, I bet that I could build a good system for audio and video scratching within a week." And, I have.
END OF STORY
So that's what I'm presenting to you, my free audio and video scratching system in Pure Data (Pd-extended, really). I use the name DJ Lease Def, so it's the Lease Def DJ system. It's not quite perfect because it loads its samples into tables using soundfiler which means that it has a huge delay when you load a new file during which the whole thing goes silent. I am unhappy about this, but unsure how to fix it. Otherwise, it's pretty nifty. Anyway, rather than be one big patch, it relies on a system of patches which work with each other. Each of the different parts will come in several versions and you can choose which one you want to use and load up the different parts and they should work together correctly. Right now, for most of the parts there's only one version, but I'll be adding others later.
There's a more detailed instruction manual in the .zip file, but the summary is that you load:
the engine (only one version right now): loads the files, does the actual signal processing and playback
one control patch (three versions to choose from currently, two GUI versions and a MIDI version specific to the Ion Discover DJ): is used to do most of the controlling of the engine other than loading files such as scratching, fading, adjusting volume, etc.
zero or one cueing patch (one version, optional): manages the controls for jumping around to different points in songs
zero or one net patch (one version: video playback): does some sort of add-on. Will probably most commonly be used for video. The net patches have to run in a separate instance of Pd-extended and they listen for signals from the engine via local UDP packets. This is set-up this way because when the audio and video tried to run in the same instance, I would get periodic little pops, clicks, and other unsmoothnesses. The audio part renders 1000 times per second for maximum fidelity, but the video part only renders like 30 or 60 times per second. Pure Data is not quite smooth enough to handle this in a clever real-time multithreading manner to ensure that they both always get their time slices. But you put them in separate processes, it all works fine.
So, anyway, it's real scratching beginning exactly where you were in playing the song and when you stop scratching it picks up just where you left off, you can set and jump to cue points, and it does video which will follow right along with both the scratching and cuing. So I'm pretty proud of it. The downsides are that you have to separate the audio and video files, that the audio has to be uncompressed aiff or wav (and that loading a new file pauses everything for like 10 seconds), that for really smooth video when you're scratching or playing backwards you have to encode it with a codec with no inter-frame encoding such as MJPEG, which results in bigger video files (but the playback scratches perfectly as a result).
So anyway, check it out, let me know what you think. If you have any questions or feedback please share. If anyone wants to build control patches for other MIDI hardware, please do and share them with me. I'd be glad to include them in the download. The different patches communicate using send and receive with a standard set of symbols. I've included documentation about what the expected symbols and values are. Also, if anyone wants me to write patches for some piece of hardware that you have, if you can give me one, I'll be glad to do it.
Keith Irwin (DJ Lease Def)
VisualTracker - request for participants
Here is some more info:
This is development info of VisualTracker for pd (pre alpha 100404)
What is it:
VisualTracker is sample sequencer – it triggers loaded samples in times defined in time line in editor window. Samples can be played in their default speed / length or can be fitted in tempo. In “fit mode” you can define number of bars to fit in and also multiplication of file. All changes have visual interpretation in sample canvases.
VisualTracker for pd (pre alpha 100404) was developed in Pd version 0.41.4-extended, on Windows XP
How to make it work:
- Open VisualTracker_(pre_alpha_100404).pd in pd.
- Editor and Samples window are automatically opened.
- Preset currentstate.vtp is automatically loaded – this preset is saved before closing the patch.
- After first run there are 3 empty sample boxes in samples window and 3 corresponding sample canvases in editor window.
- Load any wav (44100 Hz) by pressing „load“ in selected sample box. No space characters in path or filename are allowed. Loading of these files is aborted and error message appears for several seconds. Name of the successfully loaded sample including full path appears in sample box and also sample canvas in editor window. Size of sample canvas is changed according to the sample length. Try to change global BPM – size of sample canvas is recalculated.
- Check „fit“ to fit sample in current BPM. Set length of sample in bars and multiplication.
- Add another sample by creating object [sample] or just copy existing sample box in samples window.
- Switch to editor window, press CTRL+E to switch to pd edit mode and drag and drop sample canvases to desired position on time line. Sample canvases are automatically snapping to bar columns and rows.
- Switch back to normal mode by CTRL+E
- Press PLAY to replay your sample composition. Samples are played only if corresponding sample canvas is placed in track 1-6. If sample canvas is above the tracks sound is muted.
- Press „save“ in main VisualTracker window to save current preset to a text file. Any name and extension with no spaces is allowed.
- Before closing VisualTracker press „save state & close“. It saves current state to preset named currentstate.vtp and delete all sample boxes from samples window and all sample canvases from editor window. Now you can turn off and eventually save VisualTracker patch. This is important to avoid double appearance of sample canvases because information about samples and composition is stored independently from pd patch and should not be saved inside patch. If there are still some „orphaned“ sample canvases hanging delete them manually.
Components:
- Sample window: place for unlimited amount of [sample] abstractions. Once abstraction is created (by copying or creating the object) corresponding sample canvas is created in editor window. [sample] abstraction is sending data to sample canvas (name, color, size, snapping) and receiving back position. Triggering of sample playback is based on position of sample canvas.
- Editor window: place for sample canvases composition on the top of timeline grid. Sample canvases can be moved by mouse in pd edit mode (CTRL+E). Timeline grid will be extended and improved in next versions.
- Preset save/load: saves and loads presets to/from a text file using [coll] object. Preset contains global values (number of samples in composition, bpm) and local values for each sample box (filename, position, track, multiplication, number of bars, fit switch, color and two unused values).
- Sequencer: located in program subpatch. Very simple - functionality will be extended and improved in next versions
- Other: located in program subpatch. Contains some other patches as colortable, BPM manager, output etc.
Fedora 10 : Gem: can't load library
hi there,
I've got pd running fine for sounds but I'ld like Gem (for a reactable); but I've got this error at pd startup :
Gem: can't load library
I am with Fedora 10,
kernel :
$ uname -a
Linux hal 2.6.27.37-170.2.104.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Mon Oct 12 22:01:53 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
pd version :
$ yum info pd
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Available Packages
Name : pd
Arch : i386
Version : 0.39.3
Release : 1.cvs.07.07.23.fc10.ccrma
Size : 5.9 M
Repo : planetccrma
Summary : Real-time patchable audio and multimedia processor.
URL : http://pure-data.sourceforge.net/
License : GPL
Description: Pd gives you a canvas for patching together modules that analyze,
: process, and synthesize sounds, together with a rich palette of
: real-time control and I/O possibilities. Similar to Max
: (Cycling74) and JMAX (IRCAM). A related software package named Gem
: extends Pd's capabilities to include graphical rendering.
Here is what pd tells when started with "pd" :
[import] $Revision: 1.2 $
[import] is still in development, the interface could change!
compiled against Pd version 0.41.4
couldn't open MIDI input device 0
couldn't open MIDI output device 0
opened 0 MIDI input device(s) and 0 MIDI output device(s).
libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $
compiled on Oct 27 2009 at 17:32:35
compiled against Pd version 0.41.4.extended
Gem: can't load library
libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'list-abs' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'memento' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'pddp' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'pixeltango' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'rradical' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'jmmmp' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path
pdp: can't load library
pidip: can't load library
And here is part of what pd tells when started with "pd -verbose" :
libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $
compiled on Oct 27 2009 at 17:32:35
compiled against Pd version 0.41.4.extended
tried ./Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cxc/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/iemlib/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/list-abs/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mapping/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/jmmmp/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/maxlib/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/memento/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mjlib/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/markex/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pddp/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdogg/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/motex/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/rradical/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/sigpack/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pixeltango/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/toxy/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/unauthorized/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pan/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/smlib/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/hcs/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ext13/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flib/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ekext/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/zbl/pd-externals/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried ./Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cxc/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/iemlib/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/list-abs/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mapping/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/jmmmp/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/maxlib/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/memento/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mjlib/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/markex/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pddp/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdogg/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/motex/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/rradical/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/sigpack/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pixeltango/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/toxy/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/unauthorized/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pan/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/smlib/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/hcs/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ext13/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flib/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ekext/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/zbl/pd-externals/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried ./Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cxc/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/iemlib/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/list-abs/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mapping/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/jmmmp/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/maxlib/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/memento/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mjlib/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/markex/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pddp/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdogg/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/motex/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/rradical/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/sigpack/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pixeltango/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/toxy/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/unauthorized/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pan/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/smlib/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/hcs/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ext13/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flib/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ekext/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /home/zbl/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.l_i386 and failed
tried ./Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cxc/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/iemlib/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/list-abs/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mapping/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/jmmmp/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/maxlib/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/memento/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mjlib/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/markex/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pddp/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdogg/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/motex/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/rradical/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/sigpack/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pixeltango/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/toxy/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/unauthorized/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pan/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/smlib/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/hcs/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ext13/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flib/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ekext/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /home/zbl/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux and failed
tried ./Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/share/fonts/bitstream-vera/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cyclone/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/creb/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/cxc/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/iemlib/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/list-abs/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mapping/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/jmmmp/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/maxlib/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/memento/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/mjlib/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/markex/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/oscx/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pddp/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pdogg/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/motex/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/rradical/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/sigpack/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pixeltango/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/toxy/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/unauthorized/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/pan/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/smlib/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/hcs/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/freeverb/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ggee/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ext13/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flib/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/ekext/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /home/zbl/pd-externals/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem/Gem-meta.pd and failed
Gem: can't load library
I can't locate files like Gem-meta.pd or Gem.pd_linux on the computer;
I keep investigating, but any hint is welcome, thanks
Pd-extended 0.41.4 released!
Its done and available for download. This release is focused on lots of usability enhancements and bug
fixes. There are some new features as well in the many included
libraries.
http://puredata.org/downloads/
Here's the rough changelog:
-
fixed strict-aliasing build problems with cyclone, iemlib, bsaylor, and sigpack
-
added/fixed "Next Window" menu item and key binding (Cmd-` on Mac OS X)
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lots of usability fixes and improvements
-
removed all external binaries from package, you can get them here:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-download-the-flext-binaries-that-used-to-be-included-in-pd-extended -
changed to GPL v3
-
fixed paths that used the same image for Gem examples
-
fixed paths to example images in Gem help
-
libdirs now load properly when using [import]/[declare] to load a
libdir outside of the sys_libdir (i.e. extra) into the canvas-local
namespace -
single [output~] that works everywhere
-
improved Max Text file (.pat) importing and exporting and added
the ability to handle .mxt files, and binary .mxb and .help files -
added cyclone "maxmode" libraries to cyclone. To use them,
load the cyclone, library, then create [maxmode/cyclone] or
[maxmode/maxmode]. -
updated VBAP from 0.9.9 to 1.0.3
-
fixed bug in VBAP that cause CPU spike
-
bug fixes and clean up of [hid]? externals
-
(GNU/Linux) Free Desktop file associations and mime types for
Pd and Max/MSP files -
(GNU/Linux) fixed font size issue when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
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(GNU/Linux) fixed Help Browser when using Tcl/Tk 8.5
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(GNU/Linux) built against libv4l on Debian/testing,
Ubuntu/intrepid, Ubuntu/jaunty, and Fedora 9 -
(Debian/Ubuntu) fixed /etc/init.d/pd script to be standards-compliant
-
(Ubuntu) lpia builds for Ubuntu Netbook Remix
-
(Mac OS X) reduced default audio buffers to 20ms
-
(Mac OS X) fixed exit logic
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(Mac OS X) fixed issue with app builder. You can now create apps without replacing an existing one.
-
(Mac OS X) upgraded to libquicktime 1.1.1 and ffmpeg 0.4.20071217
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(Windows) moocow/pdstring externals now included
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(Windows) increased default audio buffer for Window to 100ms since there are some really flaky audio cards in Windows land
KNOWN BUGS
Check http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker before reporting bugs,
and if you find an existing bug report on the same issue, please
add your information there.
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Tcl/Tk 8.5 support is a bit rough, and IEM GUI fonts aren't quite right under 8.5
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Escape, Enter, and Ctrl/Cmd-W don't close the Path and Startup preferences
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pdp_opengl is alpha and will definitely crash Pd
-
loading pdp_opengl will crash Pd if X11 is not open before trying to load it
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(Mac OS X) Using Jack can cause extra CPU usage at idle
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(Windows) installer won't replace existing installs
Totally lame NOOB Gem installation question
apologies for being such an idiot and insulting your forum with my lowliness
I've been having lots of fun with puredata and want to start incorporating some images and possibly video into my stuff.
I have Pd extended - which apparently has GEM included, although I can fins no trace of it.
I've downloaded GEM for mac, but the instructions for installing it make no sense with what actually appears once it's downloaded. The instuctions:
"GEM under Mac OSX
* Download GEM for MacOSX
* Unpack"
All this is fine
"* copy folder content to your pd installation, under /gem
* copy or move Gem.PD_Darwin to PDs extra folder
* start with additional parameter -lib gem"
These are not fine for me..I don't appear to have a pd installation folder...just the app.
I also don't seem to have anything called Gem.PD_Darwin
I've tried about a million variations on the correct link in the startup menu of pd to load up GEM but it never works.
I'm a bit exasperated now...and desperate enough to show myself up as a muppet in front of you guys....pleeease can anyone help me out here?
btw I've been lurking for months and picked up many many wonderful tips and bits of advice on here, for which I thank you all.
Gemwin Flickering
It's actually invisible...as strange as that may seem. It's not outside of the desktop. Ubuntu has a desktop switcher on the taskbar that indicates where windows are located on a particular desktop (in my case i have two desktops). I can clearly see Gem in the switcher. Also, when i right click on gem in the taskbar and select resize, the cursor moves to gem on the desktop for me to resize. The other windows behave as if there is another window open in front of them, you just can't see that window(gem). So gem is there, it's just not visible.
Random numbers, timers, projections
Hey everyone.
You'll have to excuse me 'cause I don't have a clue about PD, but need to use it for one of my current projects.
Basically, I want to project some text from my computer onto a blank canvas. I want to use a pressure sensor to detect when a user is sitting down. Once it knows someone is sitting down, I want the text to change.
From here on, I want the text to change after a given amount of time... say... 30 seconds for now?
When it gets to the last slide of text, I want it to do nothing other than display this line of text, until the user places their hand over an LDR. When the user's hand is placed over the LDR, the light will be reduced to a certain level. Once this level is reached, I want PD to time for 15 seconds, and at the end of the 15 seconds, illuminate any random combination of light bulbs and set off a rumble pack beneath where they have put their hand. If the user removes their hand before the 15 seconds is up, I do not want any of the light bulbs to illuminate, and I do not want the rumble pack to go off.
[When certain bulbs are illuminated, I want certain lines of text to be projected.
Say bulbs 1 and 2 are illuminated, but 3, 4 and 5 are not. I would like text to be projected that says "Bulbs 1 and 2 are illuminated. Bulbs 3, 4 and 5 are not". Or say Bulbs 1, 3 and 5 are illuminated, I want text to be projected that says "Bulbs 1, 3 and 5 are illuminated. Bulbs 2 and 4 are not."]
If the user stands up at any point in time, removing pressure from the pressure sensor, I want the initial line of text to be displayed on screen again, and everything to start over.
Sorry if this sounds very complex, please let me know if you can help out at all.
Edit ::
If it makes it any easier, you could ignore the bit that I've put in the square brackets. Instead of this, I would just like one more screen of text to be projected when any combination of the bulbs are illuminated.
Complete noob alert! (installation)
Okay, hello guys. Excited to be here... I've recently become hooked on Pd.
I can do a fair bit with it already but I'm just getting really fed up now that practically every patch I download from someone else contains at least one object or some kind of abstraction I either don't understand or don't have some how.
On Mac OS X PPC 10.4, I've downloaded Pd Extended, but I'm pretty sure I don't have all of these libraries that many of you talk about. (isn't that what Extended is supposed to be all about?) I really want to start working with GEM.
at start up, I always get this in the console. This is bad, no?
libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $
written by Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@at.or.at>
compiled on Jul 29 2008 at 04:03:05
compiled against Pd version 0.40.3.extended
/Applications/Pure Data/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pure Data/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.6.dylib
Referenced from: /Applications/Pure Data/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_darwin
Reason: image not found
Gem: can't load library
libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'zexy' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'creb' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'cxc' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'iemlib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'list-abs' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'mapping' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'markex' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'maxlib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'memento' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'mjlib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'motex' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'oscx' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'pddp' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'pdogg' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'pixeltango' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'pmpd' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'rradical' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'sigpack' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'smlib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'toxy' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'unauthorized' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'pan' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'freeverb' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'hcs' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'jmmmp' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'ext13' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'ggee' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'flib' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'ekext' to the global objectclass path
libdir_loader: added 'flatspace' to the global objectclass path
/Applications/Pure Data/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pure Data/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib
Referenced from: /Applications/Pure Data/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pdp.pd_darwin
Reason: image not found
pdp: can't load library
/Applications/Pure Data/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pure Data/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib
Referenced from: /Applications/Pure Data/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/extra/pidip.pd_darwin
Reason: image not found
pidip: can't load library