i've done all the send/receives.
my question really resolves around teh abstractions/subpatches with the processing goodness in them. . .
i've got about a bunch of abstractions/subpatches sitting out of the way but still in the main window/patch, as far as i can tell, i could possibly put everything into one subpatch (as long as that doesnt break anything :p) - leaving me with one non gui object ..
if i then got that last subpatch to do the graph on parent thing it would look like some sort of rectangular shape, which would be easy to integrate somehow into the overall gui effect.
(i've just come from Max, where you can just make stuff invisible .. )
thanks